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@baron-silas-greenback said in Laurel Hubbard:
@raznomore said in Laurel Hubbard:
@rembrandt I can't decide if I'm liberal or conservative so best to stay off the political forum. The Baron would eat my happy go lucky comments alive.
Those 2 things are not mutually exclusive... feel free to be both.
There is an argument that it is the place most people end up. Change the world lefties grow more fiscally conservative as they get out into the real world and social conservatives soften their opinions from life experiences as well.
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@rembrandt said in Laurel Hubbard:
@tewaio Dude! You have missed so much..although not a lot of disagreement anymore. I miss you Gollum!
Yup, we need more people willing to debate over there. I'd love for @Stargazer to expand on why he thinks it's OK for young children to supress puberty, thus stunting development and likely rendering them infertile well before they are able to properly understand the consequences of such a life changing decision. Especially when you consider the majority of them do not even develop gender dysphoria later in life. It's a shame that so many people are completely unwilling to have their ideas challenged.
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@no-quarter Just to play devils advocate. I think the biggest argument is that an earlier transition results in a more feminine result and theoretically if you actually physically pass for a women then there is less bullying etc. That's the theory but from what I understand 80% of kids do end up identifying with their biological sex if left un-hormoned. The stats on suicide rate for those who transition vs those that don't are very hard to find (there is a very old flawed study that says there is no difference). Another issue with transitioning kids is having enough penile tissue to create a vagina, you would have to have a pretty awful doctor to suggest that as an option and considering they take the Hippocratic oath I'm sure this would never happ...
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I wonder if Combat sports would allow transgender athletes to participate?
I expect in lower ranks they possibly do, would there even be checks/tests for this? It is only at the top end of these sports where it likely gets publicized enough for things to highlight the issue.
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Transgender MMA Fighter Destroys Female Opponent
By: Laura Meyers Critics are scrutinizing mixed martial arts (MMA) competitor Fallon Fox, after the transgender fighter gave her opponent a concussion and broke her eye socket. Fox defeated her opponent, Tamikka Brents, by TKO at 2:17 of the first round of their match. Brent's eye injury resulted...
The woman on the receiving end of their fight:
In a post-fight interview this week, Brents told Whoa TV, “I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life.”
“I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not, because I’m not a doctor,” she stated. “I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life, and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right. ”
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@rembrandt said in Laurel Hubbard:
@no-quarter Just to play devils advocate. I think the biggest argument is that an earlier transition results in a more feminine result and theoretically if you actually physically pass for a women then there is less bullying etc. That's the theory but from what I understand 80% of kids do end up identifying with their biological sex if left un-hormoned. The stats on suicide rate for those who transition vs those that don't are very hard to find (there is a very old flawed study that says there is no difference). Another issue with transitioning kids is having enough penile tissue to create a vagina, you would have to have a pretty awful doctor to suggest that as an option and considering they take the Hippocratic oath I'm sure this would never happ...
I've also heard the argument that it will negate the need for some of the surgeries later on (I.E. they won't develop tits so won't need them removed etc). Both are absolutely terrible arguments when you stack them up against the fact that we are talking about a bloody CHILD. Children can't even understand short-term consequences of their actions let alone a long-term life changing decision like this.
Here's the science behind that for anyone interested:
It doesn’t matter how smart teens are or how well they scored on the SAT or ACT. Good judgment isn’t something they can excel in, at least not yet. The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part. In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making center are still developing—and not necessarily at the same rate. That’s why when teens experience overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051
I am honestly astounded when anyone thinks the idea of children transitioning is OK. It's not even close to OK, it's child abuse.
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@no-quarter Agree totally. I'd really like if anyone who does disagree and think this is ok to present some arguments. Blaire White (Trans woman herself) does a few videos about this which I take as a pretty compelling point of view considering I could never really put myself in a trans persons shoes.
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@Rembrandt wow, a mother knew her kid was transgender at 4, wow!
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@rembrandt said in Laurelbolded text Hubbard:
@no-quarter Agree totally. I'd really like if anyone who does disagree and think this is ok to present some arguments. Blaire White (Trans woman herself) does a few videos about this which I take as a pretty compelling point of view considering bolded textI could never really put myself in a trans persons shoes.bolded text
Why ? Is it hard to find high heels in blokes sizes?
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@taniwharugby I remember my cousin knowing he was a horse at 5 years old. The family couldnt afford a horsederectomy at the time..which was fortunate as he now identifies as a man.
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@rembrandt when I was a kid, I used to pretend I was John Kirwan, alas no surgery would have helped my lack of speed and skills!
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@majorrage said in Laurel Hubbard:
@raznomore said in Laurel Hubbard:
Hubbard knows she is exploiting her male attributes to compete.
No different to Serena Williams
I wrote this as a joke ... but I've been thinking about it, and perhaps this is really what this is all about.
Nahhhhhh... fuck that. Born with a fluffybunny, your a chick, born with a schlong, your a dude. Sport is separated into man vs womans because, and lets face it this is something you can't say anymore but it's the truth, MEN ARE SUPERIOR TO WOMAN.
SJW's, snowflakes fuck off ... it's as simple as the above 5 words (when it comes to physicality)
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@MajorRage in all seriousness, this is how Serena fared against a man:
1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters[edit]
Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[51] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager".[52][51] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[53] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.[54] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".[55] Braasch said the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier, and that men put spin on the ball that the women can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.[51] -
@majorrage said in Laurel Hubbard:
@majorrage said in Laurel Hubbard:
@raznomore said in Laurel Hubbard:
Hubbard knows she is exploiting her male attributes to compete.
No different to Serena Williams
I wrote this as a joke ... but I've been thinking about it, and perhaps this is really what this is all about.
Nahhhhhh... fuck that. Born with a fluffybunny, your a chick, born with a schlong, your a dude. Sport is separated into man vs womans because, and lets face it this is something you can't say anymore but it's the truth, MEN ARE SUPERIOR TO WOMAN.
SJW's, snowflakes fuck off ... it's as simple as the above 5 words (when it comes to physicality)
They can gripe about it all they want. It isn't sexist saying that. It's fact.
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@no-quarter Michelle Wie tried her hand on the Mens Golf Tour...
Performances in men's events[edit]
Despite the publicity her appearances garnered, Wie made only one cut in a men's tournament: at the rain-shortened 2006 SK Telecom Open on the Asian Tour. She made no cuts on the PGA Tour. After missing the cut at the 2007 Sony Open by 14 shots, many sports critics began to doubt whether she ever would.[74] Wie's last appearance in a men's professional event was at the 2008 Legends Reno-Tahoe Open, an alternate event on the PGA Tour. Wie shot rounds of 73 and 80, missing the cut by nine strokes.[75]
Sure she could kick my arse (and I'd let her
), but I would guarantee I hit it further, and that is ALL that matters in Golf!
