NBL: Breakers and stuff
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@bovidae said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
So much for the no.1 seed Virginia making a run at the NCAA title. I watched a little bit of their game yesterday versus University of Maryland, Baltimore County and they made history for all the wrong reasons. A 74-54 loss means UVA have become the first no.1 seed to lose to a no.16 seed in the NCAA tournament. The stat was 135-0. Jairus Lyles couldn't miss for UMBC. Salt was a non-factor.
Also, there is a story circulating that Paul Henare won't be back for the Breakers.
Virginia were terrible. Got spanked, there was nothing good to say about it. as for Pauli, he's gooone
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12015234
A bold move by the new owners, who clearly don't believe in seeing what you have for a season first. It says he chose not to renew but i reckon he must have been given the word from the new owners that his head was on the block. Henare did make some questionable coaching decisions, especially the offense and subs. Hang on tight Breakers fans
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Henare has the two biggest jobs in NZ basketball so perhaps it is better that he concentrate on one. Of course, Andrej Lemanis was shit at the start of his career but they showed patience and got the rewards.
Who the Breakers get as a replacement will be key, and perhaps the likes of Vukona and Abercrombie will hold off signing a new contract until that person is announced. It could end up being a HUGE shakeup.
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This style of meddling American ownership has me worried. Also has me worried regarding the Warriors with a bunch of Yanks wanting to buy that club as well.
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@sneakdefreak said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
This style of meddling American ownership has me worried. Also has me worried regarding the Warriors with a bunch of Yanks wanting to buy that club as well.
I agree. Why not wait a year and see what you have rather than make big changes when you don't understand the landscape?
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It reminds me a of a documentary on the North Harbour basketball team back in the 1980s Rheineck NZ league. There was a takeover of sorts at board level, a bunch of flash Harrys came in with big ideas about making them into a kiwi basketball juggernaut. They brought in this coach from the US who immediately benched all of their best NZ players, brought in apparently awesome imports who were rubbish, and the whole thing floundered inside a season or two
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Until we know more details it appears that Henare walked, he wasn't pushed. Maybe his role was going to change with less input into player recruitment, or maybe he wants a new challenge?
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@bovidae said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
Until we know more details it appears that Henare walked, he wasn't pushed. Maybe his role was going to change with less input into player recruitment, or maybe he wants a new challenge?
Yeah, just reading between the lines. But he was a foundation player, he waited in line and finally got the job. I don't think he would walk away unless they made his position untenable
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Now UNC are out of the NCAA tourney after getting "Virginia'd" by Texas A&M. No one is safe this year
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I was going to say MSU were my pick to win but they got upset by Syracuse earlier today, who many thought shouldn't have been in the tourney to start with.
Villanova, Xavier or Kansas will be favoured now. ESPN will continue to cream their pants over Duke.
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@canefan said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@bovidae I wonder if anyone has an unbusted bracket now? I reckon not
Me either. Viriginia losing would have busted everybody bar UMBC supporters.
Looking at the bracket Kentucky should get out of the South, and Xavier in the West. The East and Midwest regions look harder to pick.
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#2 Cincy gone now as well. The seeds are falling fast
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Another no.1 seed goes out - Xavier.
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If you love chaos this is a great tourney so far
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Back to Henare and the Breakers.
According to Hinton:
Here's the situation as I understand it: Henare has quit his Breakers role with no replacement job to go to. It is that serious a situation.He has not been enticed away by a better offer. A job he couldn't turn down. He just couldn't continue in this one under the new ownership group headed by Matt Walsh.
My understanding is that communication was poor between the new owners and their coach, and that what was presented to him to continue in the role did not meet Henare's satisfaction.
There was no back and forth in a search for compromise. No negotiation. And the incumbent head coach took what he perceived to be his only option. He walked away.
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@bovidae said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
Back to Henare and the Breakers.
According to Hinton:
Here's the situation as I understand it: Henare has quit his Breakers role with no replacement job to go to. It is that serious a situation.He has not been enticed away by a better offer. A job he couldn't turn down. He just couldn't continue in this one under the new ownership group headed by Matt Walsh.
My understanding is that communication was poor between the new owners and their coach, and that what was presented to him to continue in the role did not meet Henare's satisfaction.
There was no back and forth in a search for compromise. No negotiation. And the incumbent head coach took what he perceived to be his only option. He walked away.
Winter is coming
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Abercrombie and Ili have re-signed for the Breakers. Good news.
As for March Madness, the final 4 are set. Loyola-Chicago (#11) vs Michigan (#3) and Villanova (#1) vs Kansas (#1). Good that the ESPN darlings Duke were shown the door.
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That is really shit by the new owners. Surely a bit more effort to soften the exit and not lose goodwill would have been the way to go? It's not like they are picking up a club in shambles or anything, where the scorched earth approach might be warranted... wonder what the old owners think of this?
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Henare in the running for the now vacant Taipans gig
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If the new Americans unveil a new yank coach untested in the NBL we are fucked. Unless they are ready to pay for a bunch of NBA players that is
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Braswell would be the best of the local coaches.
Until we know the full story I'm not going to put all of the blame on the new US owners. They wanted Henare back but he chose to walk. Obviously there was a disconnect. Dillon Boucher is still there as the GM so if he was also replaced then a purge has definitely occurred.
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Speaking of the NBL, I see that the final series has gone to game 5 with the home team winning every game so far. I haven't watched any of the games but it will be the first time since 2009 that a team other than Perth or the Breakers are champs. That was the now defunct South Dragons.
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@bovidae it's been a ripper of a series. High scores, niggle, biff, ejections, it's had it all. Hoping Adelaide can find a way to jag a win in Melbourne, because fuck Chris Goulding
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Taipans skipper Cam Gliddon elects not to re-sign with the club, and is on the market. Be a decent pick up for anyone in the league really.
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Aaron Fearne has been added to the Tall Blacks coaching staff for the Comm Games. The Tall Blacks will be based in Cairns for their pool games.
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@bovidae he'll be a good addition. Good at setting up a team and system by all accounts. Technically a good coach. But limited on game day is the general consensus. Can coach a defense though.
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I heard something on the radio this morning saying that Rick Pitino was rumoured to be the next Breakers coach. Pitino had plenty of success at NCAA level but was fired from Louisville last year for allegedly being involved in "pay for play" deal with college athletes. He also earned an annual salary of US$7.8M in his last year.
Edit: Pitino has dismissed the story. I doubt he'd move to NZ for peanuts.
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haha and you Breakers fuckers are whinging because your new moneyed owners might upset the apple cart.
You could be witnessing the death of the Taipans.
By all accounts we have one signed player. And he is usually injured for most of the season.
We didn't resign our coach, which all in all is probably the right decision, it really was time for a change. If we can't win, at least make us fun to watch.
Then our captain leaves, for fucking Perth if stories are correct. Then our best player in McCarron decides to play next season in Europe.
We are rebuilding completely. From scratch. With no money. In a league that is happy to become a money league, that's a very bad thing. No decent coach is going to want the job, what players are going to want to come here?
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I hear Tana is keen bro!! Parsons has always felt stereotyped as a hooker and is ready to reinvent himself as a centre!
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@paekakboyz said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
I hear Tana is keen bro!! Parsons has always felt stereotyped as a hooker and is ready to reinvent himself as a centre!
I've seen him throw lineouts, doubt his 3-point percentage is going to be that high
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@mariner4life sorry, meant to say he comes as a package deal - he'll be sitting on the shoulders of whichever lock can't get a contract for the Blues next year!
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What is the current salary cap in the NBL? You do wonder how Melbourne Utd can have such a stacked team. The Kings weren't so successful with their "star" roster.
Henare's name was mentioned as a possible coach for the Taipans but I read recently he has no firm plans and wants to spend more time with the family.
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@bovidae the same way the Breakers through the glory years had a bench as good as most teams starting 5, accounting.
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@mariner4life said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@bovidae the same way the Breakers through the glory years had a bench as good as most teams starting 5, accounting.
We had an awesome team then. I'm not sure we got it by opening the wallet though. Melbourne are loaded with imports, Prather is 6th man!
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@canefan said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@mariner4life said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@bovidae the same way the Breakers through the glory years had a bench as good as most teams starting 5, accounting.
We had an awesome team then. I'm not sure we got it by opening the wallet though. Melbourne are loaded with imports, Prather is 6th man!
pffft hahaha okay man, you keep telling yourself that.
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@mariner4life said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@canefan said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@mariner4life said in NBL: Breakers and stuff:
@bovidae the same way the Breakers through the glory years had a bench as good as most teams starting 5, accounting.
We had an awesome team then. I'm not sure we got it by opening the wallet though. Melbourne are loaded with imports, Prather is 6th man!
pffft hahaha okay man, you keep telling yourself that.
I'm sure we were spending as much or more than anyone. But teams are spending even more now. Is there a salary cap? I recall there being a point system
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@canefan pretty sure there is both in place. But don't think it's strictly enforced. The new owner i am pretty sure wants as much talent on display as possible.
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Just for you.
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MOTHERFUCKER!!!
You fucking... why would you... i can't even... SHIT!!
Fuck me dead. No one, i mean no one, loses to 1 second catch-and-shoots like the Taipans. If that's the play, you can almost fucking guarantee the other team will get it, no matter how bullshit the shot.
I mean, fucking look at that play. They do everything right, in the Taipans' view, the right player gets the ball, he has to turn and release, with 2 guys in his face, and he loops a bucket. Fucking. Bullshit.
Cap cheating fuckheads. I hope your new owners burn you to the ground now.
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Bullets spending up. They've signed Vukona from the Breakers and Gliddon from us.
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