D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders
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Today, Oct 31, Tuesday morning, World Rugby plans to announce who is the recommended host country for RWC 2023. The recommendation is contained in a 220 page analysis report conducted by an independent firm of assessors who have pored through every detail of the three bids. Apparently they've looked at everything from travel times, to accommodation, stadia facilities, and how long the queues would be for the loo.
Bookies had Ireland as favourites but the odds have lengthened slightly. Bill Beaumont and Agustin Pichot were given the report last Friday. The full document will be released to media tomorrow to maintain transparency and integrity of the bid process.
All the WR unions, except the three bidders, will vote on who should get it on November 15. It's a secret ballot, but the likelihood of a vote going against the recommendation would cause more than a few raised eyebrows. It could still happen though.
There could be a lot of glum faces by midday GMT tomorrow in either Dublin, or Paris or Cape Town.
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If the Home Nations vote as a bloc then Ireland stands a good chance, particularly if games are given to Scotland, England and Wales.
I'd like them to get it too as Ireland has never hosted a RWC. Otherwise, SA as 1995 is a long time ago.
Hopefully Argentina and Italy put their names in the hat to host later RWCs.
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The recommendation is contained in a 220 page analysis report conducted by an independent firm of assessors who have pored through every detail of the three bids. Apparently they've looked at everything from travel times, to accommodation, stadia facilities, and how long the queues would be for the loo.but the likelihood of a vote going against the recommendation would cause more than a few raised eyebrows.I'm a bit uneasy about an independent firm of assessors have too much sway to be honest.
I'm happy for them to provide a report, comparing pros and cons etc. That the board members can study to make their voting decision.
But should they then provide a recommendation?
How can an 'independent firm of assessors' e.g auditors and accountants - compare the cash cow of a France bid to the first time in traditional member Ireland, to South Africa that may or may not be meddled with by hostile politicians.
It's a balalnce of emoticve choice, $$$ choice for funding next 4 year IRB cycle, and if a new territory in 2027 (Argentina & USA) were to bid, then there is an element of hunch.
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@bovidae said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
If the Home Nations vote as a bloc then Ireland stands a good chance, particularly if games are given to Scotland, England and Wales.
I'd like them to get it too as Ireland has never hosted a RWC. Otherwise, SA as 1995 is a long time ago.
Hopefully Argentina and Italy put their names in the hat to host later RWCs.
My understanding was that Ireland's bid is standalone so no game gifts? I'd like to see Ireland host their first cup, SA to be next. I agree that Argentina could do it, they have the infrastructure. So do Italy for that matter but both countries may suffer as rugby is dwarfed by football
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@pot-hale said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
Today, Oct 31, Tuesday morning, World Rugby plans to announce who is the recommended host country for RWC 2023. The recommendation is contained in a 220 page analysis report conducted by an independent firm of assessors who have pored through every detail of the three bids. Apparently they've looked at everything from travel times, to accommodation, stadia facilities, and how long the queues would be for the loo.
Bookies had Ireland as favourites but the odds have lengthened slightly. Bill Beaumont and Agustin Pichot were given the report last Friday. The full document will be released to media tomorrow to maintain transparency and integrity of the bid process.
All the WR unions, except the three bidders, will vote on who should get it on November 15. It's a secret ballot, but the likelihood of a vote going against the recommendation would cause more than a few raised eyebrows. It could still happen though.
There could be a lot of glum faces by midday GMT tomorrow in either Dublin, or Paris or Cape Town.
Have a thanks for including tags on your post!
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@dogmeat said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
As long as it isn't France I'm not fussed. Can make a valid argument for either of the other two but 16 years after 2007 is just too soon
What happened in 2007?
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@bovidae said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
If the Home Nations vote as a bloc then Ireland stands a good chance, particularly if games are given to Scotland, England and Wales.
I'd like them to get it too as Ireland has never hosted a RWC. Otherwise, SA as 1995 is a long time ago.
Hopefully Argentina and Italy put their names in the hat to host later RWCs.
It’s an island of Ireland bid only. Only individual unions can bid. No sharing of games between unions was allowed.
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@pot-hale
OK, so is the IRFU confident of the Eng, Scot and Welsh votes?
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@bovidae said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@pot-hale
OK, so is the IRFU confident of the Eng, Scot and Welsh votes?
No. Wales could vote differently. Not sure about England.
Scotland, USA, Canada, NZ they’re confident about.They need 21.
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@act-crusader said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@dogmeat said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
As long as it isn't France I'm not fussed. Can make a valid argument for either of the other two but 16 years after 2007 is just too soon
What happened in 2007?
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@pot-hale said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@bovidae said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@pot-hale
OK, so is the IRFU confident of the Eng, Scot and Welsh votes?
No. Wales could vote differently. Not sure about England.
Scotland, USA, Canada, NZ they’re confident about.They need 21.
Good luck mate, I hope your boys get the gig. Also hope you do better than we did in our RWC
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@catogrande said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@pot-hale said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@bovidae said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
@pot-hale
OK, so is the IRFU confident of the Eng, Scot and Welsh votes?
No. Wales could vote differently. Not sure about England.
Scotland, USA, Canada, NZ they’re confident about.They need 21.
Good luck mate, I hope your boys get the gig. Also hope you do better than we did in our RWC
Cheers. We’ll know about recommendation in 20 minutes at 11am GMT.
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RTE now confirming it:
South Africa recommended as 2023 Rugby World Cup host by technical review group
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@tewaio said in D-Day looms for RWC 2023 bidders:
9 mins before deadline, twitter story breaking:
Midi Olympique reporting World Rugby will back South Africa as 2023 World Cup hosts. Also say "Ireland came last in all criteria"
I'd like to know what the criteria were
