Raeburn Shield
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@Davesofthunder Out of interest has there been any thought into creating a physical shield and then perhaps offering it up for a match? The big unions might not care too much but if it headed to Japan again they might show some interest. Might even be able to crowdfund its creation.
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@Rembrandt said in Raeburn Shield:
@Davesofthunder Out of interest has there been any thought into creating a physical shield and then perhaps offering it up for a match? The big unions might not care too much but if it headed to Japan again they might show some interest. Might even be able to crowdfund its creation.
Had some discussion with the company Thomas Lyte who make loads of shields/trophies and are the caretakers of the Webb Ellis trophy for example.
Have some costings from them and have looked at running a crowd funding campaign to get it made.
Probably one I will look to set up in he nearish future. Probably need £10,000 minimum to get started but it was interesting how they structure these things with allowing winners to purchase their own replicas to keep etc which can help fund some other elements.
For the moment the 3d creation I had done is holding place but it would be amazing to get a physical shield and turn up to present it!
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@Hooroo said in Raeburn Shield:
If one of the knock matches that has a Raeburn involved, is a draw after 80 mins, does the holder keep it??
It hasn't actually happened in a final yet as both RSA and England held the shield when they went into those matches.
However, extra time means you have a winner of that match so it is no longer and draw and the winning team would take the shield.
In normal matches with no extra time to find a winner the holder keeps the shield in the event if a draw.
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@Davesofthunder I'd get into a crowdfunding campaign for sure.
any sponsorship opportunities?
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@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
@Rembrandt said in Raeburn Shield:
@Davesofthunder Out of interest has there been any thought into creating a physical shield and then perhaps offering it up for a match? The big unions might not care too much but if it headed to Japan again they might show some interest. Might even be able to crowdfund its creation.
Had some discussion with the company Thomas Lyte who make loads of shields/trophies and are the caretakers of the Webb Ellis trophy for example.
Have some costings from them and have looked at running a crowd funding campaign to get it made.
Probably one I will look to set up in he nearish future. Probably need £10,000 minimum to get started but it was interesting how they structure these things with allowing winners to purchase their own replicas to keep etc which can help fund some other elements.
For the moment the 3d creation I had done is holding place but it would be amazing to get a physical shield and turn up to present it!
Just as a follow up to this.
I decided it would be best to build a decent audience before hitting the crowdfunding scenario as you want to maximise the opportunity and ultimately need an audience who will help drive that for you.
Facebook page is up over 1200 and those kind of numbers give a better springboard from which to grow.
Really need to hit a critical mass to make it successful and that will be through a mixture of platforms.
All sharing and support appreciated
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@nzzp said in Raeburn Shield:
@Davesofthunder I'd get into a crowdfunding campaign for sure.
any sponsorship opportunities?
Good news
I'm slightly wary of sponsorship at this stage, I don't even run ads on the website and just fund all the overheads myself.
Want to push a pure concept until I can get the audience up.
That being said, under the right arrangement i would go for sponsorship but at the moment i suspect they would want more than i would be prepared to give (for example, naming rights will never be up for grabs)
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@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
I'm slightly wary of sponsorship at this stage
Good position to have. A sponsor might conflict with a team/competition sponsor which would just add another set of hurdles to get over
Have you had any luck reaching out to people in the media?
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@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
Really need to hit a critical mass to make it successful and that will be through a mixture of platforms.
You may find that a kickstarter drives engagement too. Depending on how much you're talking, it could mobilise a bunch of people and raise the profile significnatly
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@Duluth said in Raeburn Shield:
@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
I'm slightly wary of sponsorship at this stage
Good position to have. A sponsor might conflict with a team/competition sponsor which would just add another set of hurdles to get over
Have you had any luck reaching out to people in the media?
No real joy as yet.
I will be honest and say that as a busy fulla with a young family it is very much a side gig but one I am obviously hugely passionate (and a little protective) about.
Want to try and keep the concept clean but there is so much good content in the history and also in the story of why it would help our game /the journey so far to recognition.
Would be a big feather in the cap of any organisation who truly championed it when it gets recognised (and it will, I am a patient man!)
If anyone has any contacts or introduction I would be very keen and happy to make myself available on a pretty flexible basis to have a chat and go through it.
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@nzzp said in Raeburn Shield:
@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
Really need to hit a critical mass to make it successful and that will be through a mixture of platforms.
You may find that a kickstarter drives engagement too. Depending on how much you're talking, it could mobilise a bunch of people and raise the profile significnatly
Totally agree, it is just about having enough to get it started. Ideally I always figured I would time it with a NH tour season as maximum teams are playing and the shield generally changes hands so you have enough active content to plan the messaging around.
That way your time limit for the campaign is aligned to the month or two where rugby is a talking point globally.
For instance it would be good in 2020 as there is the recent narrative of this being a line from both the first game of rugby but also the recent Rugby World Champs whoever that may be. Plus you are far enough from the next rugby world cup that people are keen on something to fill that void.
Plenty of time to build up that narrative ahead of it too.
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It's also funny as it has been over ten years now I have been plugging away, always as a very much back burner piece.
What is really nice is I have had a few times now where people have mentioned the shield to me not knowing i actually do everything for it in the background.
It is actually pretty cool when i look at how many people have or are engaged with the idea.
Always wish i could give it more time but will keep up the effort and we will eventually get there.
It will be an emotional day when i see it lifted for real (that will happen eventually!)
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@Machpants said in Raeburn Shield:
I couldn't find it on the website but is there a tally of total matches held for? Stats nerd here
It has been played for in 648 matches and won by a new holder 201 times (that only includes the first win in any holders run)
It is on the awesome pick and go website which is stat heaven.
So many ways you can cut it, I love it!
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@Davesofthunder Have you had any discussions with WR about making it 'official'?
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@Davesofthunder said in Raeburn Shield:
@Hooroo said in Raeburn Shield:
If one of the knock matches that has a Raeburn involved, is a draw after 80 mins, does the holder keep it??
It hasn't actually happened in a final yet as both RSA and England held the shield when they went into those matches.
However, extra time means you have a winner of that match so it is no longer and draw and the winning team would take the shield.
In normal matches with no extra time to find a winner the holder keeps the shield in the event if a draw.
I'm being pedantic sorry. Purely out of curiosity. If draw after extra time?
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@Snowy said in Raeburn Shield:
@Hooroo Think he mentioned that a draw is holder keeps it. Same as Ranfurly.
don't mention that!! @Chris-B will appear to bore us all with how Ta$man never get to challenge for the Raeburn either
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@mariner4life said in Raeburn Shield:
@Snowy said in Raeburn Shield:
@Hooroo Think he mentioned that a draw is holder keeps it. Same as Ranfurly.
don't mention that!! @Chris-B will appear to bore us all with how Ta$man never get to challenge for the Raeburn either
Well, not to disappoint you - the fucking rules actively rule that out!
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