• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksbritishlions
976 Posts 78 Posters 100.0k Views
All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • MN5M Offline
    MN5M Offline
    MN5 Banned
    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by
    #37

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Poor Scotland.

    Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok

    With the emphasis on token

    Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend

    MiketheSnowM 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    wrote on last edited by
    #38

    There was a time a while back when crotty was seen by many as a better 13 than a 12 because he was a lot like Conrad

    taniwharugbyT 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by
    #39

    @kiwiinmelb Hansen has supposedly said just that this morning (only heard a snippet on the radio)

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    wrote on last edited by
    #40

    I think if alb comes on for sbw , crotty moves into 12 , alb to 13 .

    I reckon they like to change the shape a bit when the subs come on , bit like beuady to FB, bsmith to wing , moves the point of the threats .

    It keeps the opposition guessing , the advantage of having utilities

    mimicM Chris B.C 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • C Offline
    C Offline
    Crash
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    Well. Rieko in place of Jules or an in form and previously favoured Naholo? Interesting. Chance for Rieko to really shine and make his mark. Grab it with both hands son!
    SBW/Crotty combo is the most intriguing. Would have preferred ALB/Crotty, however I;m sure we will see a version of all combos by the third test. Wonder if Laumape will be released for the Canes?

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • A Away
    A Away
    akan004
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #42

    @Nepia I'm not a fan of Crotty either but he has the best kicking game of the midfield backs. With the rush defence, Crotty's little chip kicks will come in handy. Hope it's only for this series though as ALB is a much better footballer imo.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • mimicM Offline
    mimicM Offline
    mimic
    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by
    #43

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    I think if alb comes on for sbw , crotty moves into 12 , alb to 13 .

    I reckon they like to change the shape a bit when the subs come on , bit like beuady to FB, bsmith to wing , moves the point of the threats .

    It keeps the opposition guessing , the advantage of having utilities

    Will SBW be the one they yank out first?
    How is Crotty's fitness? Can he last the game?

    kiwiinmelbK 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • KiwiMurphK Offline
    KiwiMurphK Offline
    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by
    #44

    SBW-Crotty probably also makes sense if you've got Rieko there from an experience standpoint. It's easy to forget ALB is fairly fresh too. They've surrounded Rieko with experience in that backline.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Offline
    MN5M Offline
    MN5 Banned
    replied to Crash on last edited by
    #45

    @Crash said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Well. Rieko in place of Jules or an in form and previously favoured Naholo? Interesting. Chance for Rieko to really shine and make his mark. Grab it with both hands son!
    SBW/Crotty combo is the most intriguing. Would have preferred ALB/Crotty, however I;m sure we will see a version of all combos by the third test. Wonder if Laumape will be released for the Canes?

    One hand is a better option. Means he can fend.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #46

    shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

    Midfield a suprise, but looks strong, and ALB will be dynamite off the bench. Left wing is the most surprising selection in years i reckon. Savea has had worse form rewarded, and Reiko didn't do himself many favours on the weekend.

    Good team, ABs by about 15.

    For the Lions, I am pleased for O'Mahony, i really like him as a player, and to be the Lions test captain is just reward for him being an old-fashioned hard bastard. Bloody good team really, and we are going to have to work hard to break them down. Itoje, Webb and Sinckler will be good late in the game for them as well.

    F Chris B.C 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • R Offline
    R Offline
    Rembrandt
    wrote on last edited by
    #47

    Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?

    TimT mimicM 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • R Offline
    R Offline
    Rembrandt
    wrote on last edited by
    #48

    Would love to see Savea, Laumape and J Barrett released for the canes, would make it certainly more interesting especially for those hungry for test selection

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    replied to Rembrandt on last edited by Tim
    #49

    @Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.

    R boobooB 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    replied to mimic on last edited by
    #50

    @mimic I think they will wait and see how things unfold first .

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #51

    Some analysis from a pom:

    TDBA S01E02 (Master) by The Dead Ball Area
    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • R Offline
    R Offline
    Rembrandt
    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #52

    @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.

    Well I have to say that really surprises me. I'd back Naholo every time to run over or drag a couple defenders but I don't feel the same with Reiko. Hopefully my fears are totally unfounded and he has a storming game!

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • mimicM Offline
    mimicM Offline
    mimic
    replied to Rembrandt on last edited by
    #53

    @Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?

    Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
    Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..

    SammyCS No QuarterN RapidoR 3 Replies Last reply
    7
  • SammyCS Offline
    SammyCS Offline
    SammyC
    replied to mimic on last edited by
    #54

    @mimic said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?

    Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
    Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..

    Agree, he's been the blues best back this year by quite a margin. Made line breaks at will when they were carving up the crusaders (before we changed our game plan in the second half)

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • No QuarterN Offline
    No QuarterN Offline
    No Quarter
    replied to mimic on last edited by
    #55

    @mimic said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?

    Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
    Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..

    In the Blues-Canes game earlier in the year he showed himself to be at least as quick as BB when he was gaining on him after a break, so I don't doubt his speed.

    I also don't doubt his power, look at one of his disallowed tries against the Lions for evidence - he powered through about 4 of them.

    Still, a big ask for the young man in what is a huge test, I really thought they'd go with their tried and tested however I'm not unhappy as I picked Rieko to go ahead of Jules this year or next, he's a special talent.

    Other surprise obviously Crotty at 13 where he hasn't played a lot. They must really rate his organsational skills to want to slot him in there. Tough on ALB but he'll provide some good impact off the bench if required.

    Otherwise pretty much as expected. Taken Barrett over Romano for hia lineout work which makes sense.

    Bring it on!

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #56

    Apparently Crotty has started at 13 for the AB's twice - both times outside of SBW.

    antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
    0

All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
Rugby Matches
allblacksbritishlions
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.