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    My dad jumped out of his armchair and took out the chandelier above!

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    @ACT-Crusader I looked at the direction of the pass relative to the 22 m line. Forward pass to me but a moot point now. 🙂

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    @pakman said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    My dad jumped out of his armchair and took out the chandelier above!

    Scrums binding in a heartbeat, Bevan Wilson kicking with the point of his toe, that is some classic old-time rugby. That kick-and-chase by Bill Osborne was crucial.

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    @Salacious-Crumb said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    Scrums binding in a heartbeat

    Was it because both packs were so keen for the renewal of clandestine punching etc?

    How did such less-than-peak-condition sportsmen cope without the 1-minute break that is the modern scrum?

    (Maybe the repeated 1-minute pile-up that was the old-fashioned ruck?)
    Unless 'Shoe-pie' was on the menu ...
    Skip to 14:16 for a bit of old-school shoe-pie served to Lions John Dawes for being on the wrong side of a ruck

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    Staggering stat from the Landers v Lions game.
    For a so called 2nd string Lions team,they had over 700 x test caps across the 23,The Landers had around 40 x test caps,Malakai Fekitoa with 23 of those test caps..don't quite subscribe to some who have been calling the Landers that took the field B Team,there was still a decent bit of quality put out on the paddock,in fact if they were a Mitre 10 cup side,they would take a bit of knocking off..The words over paid athletes gets thrown around quite a bit,but in the case of this Lions team that took the field,you do wonder..!

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    given the standing of this guy, you'd think he would know the rules of where the off-side line is, hint, it isn't the middle of the ruck!

    https://www.rugbypass.com/article/video-refereeing-decisions-gift-highlanders-victory-lions

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    They are marginally offside, which is very common nowadays. The line is a little misleading as it goes over the top of the ruck where it should disappear underneath it, making it appear like it goes through the middle when it would actually be closer to the back.

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    @No-Quarter See what you mean, but reckon it is definitely more through the middle of the ruck, not at the back, see it goes through the middle of a highlander player on the right, he isn't near the back (of the Lions side) not to mention the Highlanders guy standing in an off-side position not part f the ruck.

    I thnk that seems a deliberate (smart so far) tactic of the Lions, all in a straight line, all very flat or pushing the off-side line so a look up by the ref sees them all in a line so seems on-side.

    Point is, the off side call was technically correct, yes plenty of times it is let go, so I guess you cant complain when one does get called when it is correct, however minor.

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    @taniwharugby said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    given the standing of this guy, you'd think he would know the rules of where the off-side line is, hint, it isn't the middle of the ruck!

    I agree.

    Some fair points, but overall tears of impotent rage... they taste sweet.

    Why didn't a Cantab make one of those from Saturday night? Highlight cynical play, dodgy scrum penalties and imaginary offside lines all night 🙂

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    His analysis has someone returning on side, having no participation in the play and Webb throwing a shitter of a pass that goes to ground. For some reason, he wants a penalty awarded as a result. People who don't know the laws shouldn't make videos analysing refereeing decisions.

    @No-Quarter said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    They are marginally offside, which is very common nowadays. The line is a little misleading as it goes over the top of the ruck where it should disappear underneath it, making it appear like it goes through the middle when it would actually be closer to the back.

    Nah, by the letter of the law he's clearly offside.

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    @antipodean said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    @taniwharugby

    His analysis has someone returning on side, having no participation in the play and Webb throwing a shitter of a pass that goes to ground. For some reason, he wants a penalty awarded as a result. People who don't know the laws shouldn't make videos analysing refereeing decisions.

    @No-Quarter said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    They are marginally offside, which is very common nowadays. The line is a little misleading as it goes over the top of the ruck where it should disappear underneath it, making it appear like it goes through the middle when it would actually be closer to the back.

    Nah, by the letter of the law he's clearly offside.

    Yeah, I wasn't saying they were onside, just the picture is a little deceptive. Can't argue with the call.

    I remember the play where Webb threw the shitter of a pass - it looked like he was in two minds as to whether he would try and milk a penalty by throwing it into the retiring player, or spin it wide and go for the try. Ended up just throwing it to ground so did neither.

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    @dogmeat said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

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    Laurie Knight scored the winning try in the last minutes of the 4th test at Eden Park. I was in temporary seating in front of the North Stand and we all jumped about so much it collapsed.

    Poor old Colin Farrell. Even for Auckland he was pretty hit and miss although for the times he was a counter-attacking fullback. We certainly has some shocking fullbacks after Karam went to league

    Main v2 & Fawcett I'm gonna score more off the field than on it in 76 Duncan Robertosn Bevan Wilson seemed like a rugby god after that lot

    Farrell pretty much got selected, because the selectors were stuck for a fullback and asked Bryan Williams who recommended Farrell. Richard Wilson, Clive Currie, Brett Codlin - and a few others - by the time Hewson came along they were prepared to forgive plenty!

    Seeing that video clip of Laurie Knight scoring reminds me that at some point during the series Fenwick (I'm pretty sure) got an interception and took off downfield, but was run down pretty quickly. Afterwards he remarked that he couldn't get his legs really going because they were so sore from Bill Osborne's crash tackling of him.

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    Bill Osborne. Great All Black 12.

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    @pakman said in Highlanders v B&I Lions:

    Bill Osborne. Great All Black 12.

    Him and Robertson were the benchmark for our midfield for a long long time...and it took a few years of sustained excellence from Ma'a and Conrad to surpass them in my opinion.

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    wheres the love for Little and Bunce?

    Robertson definitely first class centre for NZ has to in consideration in any discussion about best ever.

    I don't think the same is true for Bill Osborne

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    @dogmeat
    Little and Bunce were very close to Robertson and Osborne, but in my opinion were benefited by a much stronger ABs team

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