Chappell-Hadlee
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@tubbyj
Has to be time for Southee to be given the hoof.
I struggle to see what he brings to the current side...
Exhibit A. His batting is often reckless, and absolutely self-serving. He has zero appreciation for the team situation and bats for himself. He should be at #11. His batting average is 12 in his last 20 ODI's
Exhibit B. His bowling. From his last 22 ODI's he has taken less than a wicket per match, his average is out to 55. (thanks to a bit of Cricinfo Stastsguru searching. And he's slow. He's sending down 130km pies. At best. Often in the 120's. Neesham is quicker.
Unless we're keeping him in the team for his fabled ability to score with air-hostesses.I would like to see:
Latham
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Broom or Bruce
2 of Neesham, Anderson, Munro, Worker
Santner
Henry
Boult
Ferguson/Milne -
I've lost faith in Munro - not that I ever had a lot.
The good thing right now is that we have quite a few viable options and can balance the team in a variety of ways
If everyone was fit, perhaps my favoured ODI combo is:
Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Broom, Neesham, Anderson, Santner, Milne, Boult, Southee
Lots of batting and bowling in that - and also have Brownlie, Worker(?), Munro(?), Nichols(?), Bruce(?) Ronchi, Blundell, Sodhi, Craig, Astle, Ferguson, Henry and McClenaghan as credible (or vaguely credible) alternatives. And doubtless several others if I really thought hard.
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@Chris-B.
No Sodhi in that list either.We almost have an interchangeable XI.
You'd lock Guptill, Williamson, Taylor & Boult in though.
Imagine how dangerous Williamson & Taylor would be (actually the whole batting lineup) if they don't feel responsible for delivering the big score time after time. Brownlie, Broom, Guppy all getting some decent runs lately has to help.I feel that Anderson = Munro = Neesham. We're still looking for that big hitting, mostly high-quality allrounder.
Santner is our current day Vettori.
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I think Neesh's batting is being a bit underrated by some. Was very good in Aus and rebuilt our innings at Eden Park. He's untroubled by the extra pace and has sound technique. He just needs to bat ahead of bloody Munro, I like him at 6 after Broom.
Edit - I like the look of @Chris-B's team, plenty of batting and Kane, Neesh and Anderson to cover the 5th bowler.
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@westcoastie Sodhi's in my list of alternates - beside Craig.
Right now, I'd probably lock Broom and Santner in, as well. Latham is very handy as an opener who can keep, but if/when he loses the gloves I think his place is a bit more iffy. I don't think he's a naturally fast scorer, though hopefully he'll grow into the role.
I think Neesham and Anderson are both much better bowlers than Munro, who can really only give you an over or two here and there - Anderson has a bit of a golden arm and actually has a better ODI strike rate that Boult. He's also got a significantly better batting strike rate than anyone in yesterday's team - so as someone who can come in and really smack it around from a strong platform he's got plenty of value.
de Grandhomme could potentially do this as well and is missing from my list. If Munro has a role then this is also it - but, he's had too many failures and too few successes.
I like Neesham as a batsman, but he and Broom are probably pretty similar and better suited to five than seven - OK at six.
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@mimic said in Chappell-Hadlee:
Just saw a stat that Taylor is tied for 1st equal with 14 tons with ABDV for an odi batsman batting at 4..
Next best is 10 tons..
You know we are only 2 innings away from "Taylors slump in form is worrying" posts on here tho' right?
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@gollum said in Chappell-Hadlee:
@mimic said in Chappell-Hadlee:
Just saw a stat that Taylor is tied for 1st equal with 14 tons with ABDV for an odi batsman batting at 4..
Next best is 10 tons..
You know we are only 2 innings away from "Taylors slump in form is worrying" posts on here tho' right?
I quite like the way Howstat displays careers in graphs. It can give you a good view of a batsman's ups and downs.
This is Roscoe's one.
Those blue bars are all 100s and appear quite regularly over the last 5 years -
Yep, that blue bar in 2011 sparks a ridiculously consistent & impressive 6 years. I never get why he gets so much shit. People see him grinning ruefully to himself when he is out & think he isn't trying or something. The guys a fricking legend.
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@gollum said in Chappell-Hadlee:
Yep, that blue bar in 2011 sparks a ridiculously consistent & impressive 6 years. I never get why he gets so much shit. People see him grinning ruefully to himself when he is out & think he isn't trying or something. The guys a fricking legend.
At a quick count from 72 innings since then there are 13 tons, 13 50's, 17 over 25
So when he bats he scores over 25 60% of the time, a half ton 36% of the time and a ton 18%.
A 50% conversion rate of 50s to 100s, which is pretty impressive in ODIs
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On conversion rates, Taylor's overall is 33% which is 16th on the all-time list. That 50% rate since 2011 would have him 2nd behind De Kock and just ahead of Davey Dumbdumb
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Neesham, like Anderson, needs to bowl to be certain of a place in the ODI team (Hesson's words). And at the moment he isn't reliable enough to be even a 5th bowler. At least Anderson gets big wickets despite leaking runs, and can be a death bowling option.
Munro is a flat-track bully but we knew that. Broom has shown the maturity to take that batting spot.
