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@Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.
If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
@Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.
If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?
I'm guessing:
They lost their son. They want him back. They're angry at that and they need someone or something to blame. To direct their anger at. They think that will make it right. Make them feel better if that someone or somethibg is punished.Sad fact is none of that will happen.
Phil will still be dead and they will still be sad and angry.
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@booboo That seems to be a big part of it, but there's an implication that maybe the stories at the inquest aren't what the family believed were the case at the time - whether they're right in that belief or not is the million dollar question...
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
@Donsteppa yep, i was going to write about this today. There seems a lot of anger from the Hughes family towards cricket, and that days play. And the media are not helping by how they are reporting (i read an article this morning where his dad kept saying "bullshit" during someone's testimony.
If indeed they are angry, i would love to know what at?
Yeah, the whole thing has left me bewildered as to what anyone expected to come out of it. Rather unedifying for the family. I mean, so what if they sledged him? Did you see the fluke manner in which he died? As if someone meant to kill him.
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sounds like it got worse today, and i really don't know what the Hughes family are trying to get out of this?
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This is a good piece from Malcolm Knox. Don't think any of us can fully appreciate what the Hughes family is going through.
The good that may yet come from the Phillip Hughes inquest
The coronial inquest into the death of Phillip Hughes may yet deliver some good.
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Great read.
What I'm bemused about is that - if Bollinger did make that sledge and Haddin had gone in wth that game plan, etc - why deny it now when the family believes it to be true from the time - and from another player.
Possibly none of it was said or short pitched bowling planned, but I think:
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even a kid bowling in the back of Afghanistan would have been vaguely aware that an Australian batsman called Philip Hughes had a known weakness against the short ball... if they hadn't planned to give him the odd bouncer it would have been unusual...
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Bollinger's alleged sledge: again, anyone who's ever bowled a bouncer remembers steaming in fuming that "I'm going to knock this fucking fluffybunny's block off" - yet would have been horrified had we literally succeeed. I don't think anyone who knows the game beyond the headlines would have thought lesser of him for saying it*.
(*) yes, I'm in the crowd of "Brud Huddun's all shut bro", but there's a difference in scale between sportsmanship and a situation where someone dies on the pitch.
Would it have done any harm to admit to it all, or did the session not really play out that way? Either way, it's very sad.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Cricket:
This is a good piece from Malcolm Knox. Don't think any of us can fully appreciate what the Hughes family is going through.
The coronial inquest into the death of Phillip Hughes may yet deliver some good.
One small part that detracts from an otherwise good piece:
Telling them to move on? Their grief is literally unimaginable.
Ah, no it's literally not. https://bitre.gov.au/statistics/safety/fatal_road_crash_database.aspx
@Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:
Would it have done any harm to admit to it all, or did the session not really play out that way? EIther way, it's very sad.
I haven't been across the evidence to make an informed response, but I can imagine that if it did and they admitted to it, if they were concerned about ramifications. Regardless you are correct; it's sad.
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Crowe's article really stood out for me at the time. Especially (but not only) the sentiment about how many bullets everyone else has dodged over the years. Even after hearing Hughes was in hospital, I didn't assume the worst.
Short pitched bowling and related sledging were hardly unique to Haddin, Bollinger, and Abbot.
Towards a kinder, gentler game
The death of Phillip Hughes is a reminder to us that we would do well to change the tone of cricket for the better
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I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.
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I think a good thing was the rapid redesign of helmets to help prevent a reoccurrence. I recall as a young lad seeing the first guys wearing motorcycle helmets playing first class cricket.
Helmet or not, facing up to genuine pace requires bravery.
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@Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:
I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.
If they were asked about it a year later? Two years?
The incident itself would have wiped out everything before it on the day, for some of those blokes. The horror of the incident itself writ large and all that
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@NTA said in Aussie Cricket:
@Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:
I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.
If they were asked about it a year later? Two years?
The incident itself would have wiped out everything before it on the day, for some of those blokes. The horror of the incident itself writ large and all that
You don't think the sheer starkness of the memory of saying 'I'm going to kill you' - and then later that day a fellow bowler doing essentially that - wouldn't somehow outlast that shock, horror, and numbness?
I can get that remembering a random unrelated sledge from three overs earlier might not be on... but I did see Haddin remembering a general chat with Hughes about his health - so broadly it sounds like some things from some of the players were "I can't recall", and other things were remembered... which hasn't helped Mr Hughes's demeanour.
Though to be fair, nothing short of bring back Phil really could.
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@Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:
I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.
Yep, the article pretty clearly points out much of their anger comes from them being interviewed a month after & the players 2 years after so a lot of variance which has led to the family being portayed as grief striken liars
"Notwithstanding how difficult this has been for the players called to appear, the family's resentment comes after days of conflicting evidence that has effectively painted them as liars. Those close to them say the week has been much tougher on them than many had initially feared. They are aware of some of the puerile attacks on social media."
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@Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:
You don't think the sheer starkness of the memory of saying 'I'm going to kill you' - and then later that day a fellow bowler doing essentially that - wouldn't somehow outlast that shock, horror, and numbness?
As I said: "for some of these blokes".
Everyone is going to react a different way. When an explosion happens, some run away from the blast. Some run towards it. Some amble around, incoherent. They'll all remember what happened differently.
People at the ground were close friends with Hughes, or team mates, or largely bystanders. Everyone is going to have a different version of the story. Nobody has the truth, beyond the fact that a young man, in the prime of his life, is dead.
How dragging it through the media is of benefit, I'm yet to figure out.
