Aussie Pro Rugby
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Here are a couple of links to interesting articles about grassroots rugby in Aussie written by Geoff Parkes that are on the The Roar website
Some of their problems are also very similar to what is going on here in NZ
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I wonder how much money they're paying the homophobe to stay in Australia.
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Can remember Jeff Wilson saying to me last year,All the Aussies need is 25 decent players to turn up at a World Cup and they will always surprise you ,I think we get a bit caught with all the issues they have over ditch.
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Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.
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Interesting the mess AR is getting itself further and further into
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.
Was that an ACT Vets game? Always interesting when you play alongside this calibre of talent and realise the huge gulf between them and you.
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@Machpants That's a can of worms right there and it looks like Castle knows it.
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@Crucial Yeah, you can ignore the skills and physicality, it's the speed of thought and execution. Everything is just done at a faster pace.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.
Agreed. Spiro making a mountain out of a molehill. There's much bigger issues to deal with. Getting rid of Clyne is a step in the right direction.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.
In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.
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@Catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.
In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.
bit of a mess is the ARU's modus operandi
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.
In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.
bit of a mess is the ARU's modus operandi
There's probably not enough gin going around. The RFU runs on Beefeater and we are assured that everything is fine, just fine.
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When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:
"So what?"
Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.
7 is actually one place we do ok.
As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:
"So what?"
Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.
7 is actually one place we do ok.
As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.
Mike Brown might be available.
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@Catogrande we've got enough complete twats.
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One of the concerned officials told Sydney Morning Herald column Ruck & Maul this week: "This issue has to again be looked into. Our suspicions were originally raised due to the very strange mistakes made by usually reliable Australian players during that game. Some errors are glaring. It's like watching Tiger Woods miss a two-inch putt, over and over again. Very odd."
Have to disagree there. Much like when match fixing allegations were levelled against the mid 90s Black Caps, hiding a couple of profitable match fixings amongst a decade of shit play is not a bad strategy.
Per the article Australia have only been heavily favoured in a handful of games in the past decade : the potential candidates would be the 2011 loss to Samoa, 2012 loss to Scotland and 2017 thrashing by Scotland. The article also doesn't confirm it is a test match so the Munster tour loss is on the table too (let's assume the 2011 RWC loss to Ireland is not the test in question).
Of the four games, the Samoa and Scotland game at home were first tests of the season and the ABs at times play as though they are on the take during that first hit out; so I will guess either the Munster loss or the loss in Edinburgh a few years ago.
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