Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.
One would only have to look at recent history for how the rugby community in Australia treats Kiwis to stay clear anyway.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
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Someone will want it. Guys at that level have massive egos, so someone will absolutely believe they are the guy to win with the Wallabies.
Tough gig to come in to though. It's a rebuild from the base job. Eddie's fucked all your old heads off so the support network is lacking. And you are going to have to develop guys in key positions with the following monstrous handicaps
The Super Rugby sides don't give a fuck about you, and won't help you or listen to your needs
A heap of your so-called best players are overseas, and will only turn up for short windows. -
Not an easy job for sure. But clear communication with the media and public would be a good place to start. Both McClennan and Eddie went in all guns blazing, abrasive, antagonistic and arrogant, and anyone like that is going to get slaughtered for their mistakes.
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
It's pretty damning that Eddie was also brought in to run the women's program as well, and he's never met the team or visited their training etc.
They dodged a bullet.
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@Machpants that really fucked me off actually
even last week they were preparing for a game and he had nothing to do but do press conferences where he was claiming he was committed
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Rugby Australia Board To Be Dissolved And Replaced By Hunter Valley Club Footy Stalwart, Trish — The Betoota Advocate
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT Rugby coach Eddie Jones’ controversial return to the Wallabies is officially over – as Rugby Australia confirms his resignation. It is believed Jones is still very employable at an international level, even after leading the Wallabies to Australia’s first Rugby...
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this was pretty good
The self-pity party of Hamish McLennan
The Rugby Australia chairman blamed ‘the system’ after the exit of Wallabies coach Eddie Jones, parking any personal responsibility for the mess the game finds itself in.
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@KiwiMurph Five minutes in and a few things strike me:
- For a prepared statement, he ummed and ahhed considerably which I never confuse with a prepared, clear intellect.
- The constant use of disappointing instead of unacceptable.
- The deflection from personal responsibility to "the board".
- An utter lack of accountability.
One gets the feeling intellects don't work at RA because there's no room leftover once ego fills the rooms.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.
One would only have to look at recent history for how the rugby community in Australia treats Kiwis to stay clear anyway.
Was going to say the samething. There is a group in Oz Rugby's Administration (Philr Kurns being one) who hate Kiwi's and blame them for everything that's wrong with OZ rugby.
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Deluded.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
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@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
I don't understand many things about corporations, from middle management upwards.
Only that they don't like the word "problem" in favour of the term "challenge".
And they have an ungodly obsession with "learnings" despite no visible improvement to their understanding.
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@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
It's bizarre isn't it. If a tradesman does a God awful job on your home, you never hire them again because they've proven to be shit at what they do. You don't hire them again thinking that their abject failure has given them experience and thus made them better at what they do.
