Aussie Pro Rugby
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.
Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?
I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.
You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’
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@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.
Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?
I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.
You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’
And "stoic"
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.
Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?
I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.
You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’
And "stoic"
I bet he’s great at funerals
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.
Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?
I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.
I would have thought that after being on a podcast with Matt Rowley all this time, you would be used to condescending pricks by now.
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Not sure why Steve should have any respect for Aussie rugby given he's spent the better part of 2 decades beating them like ginger stepkids
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Not sure why Steve should have any respect for Aussie rugby given he's spent the better part of 2 decades beating them like ginger stepkids
That may be true but he's not against a dinkum little battler. Had a helluva lotta respect for Aussie biscuits. Forget ginger step children, he smashes gingernuts.
Steve Hansen as Marlon Brando on set with co-star Zoë Bell. -
So the aboriginal Flagg is under copyright.
FFS
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@Snowy
It’s not as cut and dried as you might think it is. The copyright is by a clothing company. -
@yourmatenate I got that, but shouldn't the broader social picture take precedence?
Maybe someone could come up with an actual flag not done by a marketing company and it could be used by anyone. Like all other "flags".
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@Snowy but people already identify with it...you saw the outcry when the saders changed their logo...and thats just a rugby team
My understanding was the government could declare it an official flag of Australia and that would supersede the copyright...but i cant remember where i saw that
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this from last year
The debate over the use of the Aboriginal flag is unlikely to be resolved in the near future. Indeed, it seems destined to be an ongoing issue. In the words of Laura Thompson, the owner of a business which has received a cease and desist letter: “The flag represented a struggle and a resistance movement, and now it just feels like a struggle to use it.”
A tale of two flags: who owns the right to use?
The Australian government is considering whether to compulsorily acquire the rights to use the Aboriginal flag on public policy grounds. The debate…
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
@Snowy but people already identify with it...you saw the outcry when the saders changed their logo...and thats just a rugby team
My understanding was the government could declare it an official flag of Australia and that would supersede the copyright...but i cant remember where i saw that
Yes, but the 'saders one is, umm, unfortunate to say the least. Genitalia wasn't a good choice, although I am sure we can all identify with it.
A company can own a design, logo, etc, but not a symbol or emblem of a country, race, group of people, as a flag should be in my eyes. People will recognise other images as well in time.
They could try and change the flag. That went well here, but it's symbolism not identification I reckon.
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@Snowy said in Aussie Rugby:
A company can own a design, logo, etc, but not a symbol or emblem of a country, race, group of people, as a flag should be in my eyes. People will recognise other images as well in time.
It's an image on a flag, though, rather than being a flag. The link I posted above had the interesting fact that the Rainbow Flag is copyright as well - but the owner chooses not to enforce it.
This is an unofficial design that now represents a movement. It's annoying, but that's life ... find a new design I guess.
also, the tino rangatiratanga flag appears to be copyrighted too
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10624124#:~:text=Ms Munn designed the Tino,surviving member of the trio. -
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@Snowy owned so that they can stop it going on something dodgy, but i think i read one of those that received a cease and desist was a not for profit helping to cloth aboriginals in poor rural communities....
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
@Snowy owned so that they can stop it going on something dodgy, but i think i read one of those that received a cease and desist was a not for profit helping to cloth aboriginals in poor rural communities....
Yeah. That is why they can't "own" it. A commercial entity is representing native people and preventing them from having a symbol of their own and having it displayed by their nation (in two different ways).
I might do something "dodgy" and use the NZ flag as my avatar on here. Does that mean that all of my posts are representing NZ? Admittedly that would be bad, but you can't own a symbol.
It either represents a group of people, or it is the company's. It can't be both.
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@Snowy it can and currently does...you just cant do it without the tensions we're seeing
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@Kiwiwomble That is what I am getting at. The company give it away, or somebody does a new one.
Personally I would say fuck you and boycott their products, but I'm a grumpy fluffybunny.
