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  • barbarianB Offline
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    #2330

    Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #2331

    Good performance by Tahs to beat Rebels.

    Rebels will probably pip them for the last playoff spot next weekend though as they only have to beat the Force and Tahs have the bye.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    @MN5 and @Virgil would. Totes.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    @MN5 and @Virgil would. Totes.

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
    replied to barbarian on last edited by
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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.

    You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’

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  • NTAN Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.

    You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’

    And "stoic"

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  • MN5M Online
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.

    You’ve got it all wrong. Apparently he’s ‘dry’

    And "stoic"

    I bet he’s great at funerals

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    replied to barbarian on last edited by akan004
    #2337

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    Oh go jump, the lot of you. It's not the message, it's the messenger.

    Would you guys like some tips on cricket success from Brad Haddin?

    I don't have time for Hansen. I find him a miserable, condescending prick. Maybe that's just me, but whatever.

    I would have thought that after being on a podcast with Matt Rowley all this time, you would be used to condescending pricks by now.

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    Not sure why Steve should have any respect for Aussie rugby given he's spent the better part of 2 decades beating them like ginger stepkids

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    Not sure why Steve should have any respect for Aussie rugby given he's spent the better part of 2 decades beating them like ginger stepkids

    That may be true but he's not against a dinkum little battler. Had a helluva lotta respect for Aussie biscuits. Forget ginger step children, he smashes gingernuts. 🕶

    Tim Tam Hansen
    Steve Hansen as Marlon Brando on set with co-star Zoë Bell.

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    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by Machpants
    #2340

    So the aboriginal Flagg is under copyright.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/122611031/its-so-divisive-now-aboriginal-flag-copyright-drama-hits-wallabies

    FFS

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants FFS indeed. Unity and inclusiveness ay?

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    yourmatenate
    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @Snowy
    It’s not as cut and dried as you might think it is. The copyright is by a clothing company.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    replied to yourmatenate on last edited by
    #2343

    @yourmatenate I got that, but shouldn't the broader social picture take precedence?

    Maybe someone could come up with an actual flag not done by a marketing company and it could be used by anyone. Like all other "flags".

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Snowy on last edited by Kiwiwomble
    #2344

    @Snowy but people already identify with it...you saw the outcry when the saders changed their logo...and thats just a rugby team

    My understanding was the government could declare it an official flag of Australia and that would supersede the copyright...but i cant remember where i saw that

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    this from last year

    Sep 30, 2019

    A tale of two flags: who owns the right to use?

    A tale of two flags: who owns the right to use?

    The Australian government is considering whether to compulsorily acquire the rights to use the Aboriginal flag on public policy grounds. The debate…

    The debate over the use of the Aboriginal flag is unlikely to be resolved in the near future. Indeed, it seems destined to be an ongoing issue. In the words of Laura Thompson, the owner of a business which has received a cease and desist letter: “The flag represented a struggle and a resistance movement, and now it just feels like a struggle to use it.”

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2346

    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Snowy but people already identify with it...you saw the outcry when the saders changed their logo...and thats just a rugby team

    My understanding was the government could declare it an official flag of Australia and that would supersede the copyright...but i cant remember where i saw that

    Yes, but the 'saders one is, umm, unfortunate to say the least. Genitalia wasn't a good choice, although I am sure we can all identify with it.

    A company can own a design, logo, etc, but not a symbol or emblem of a country, race, group of people, as a flag should be in my eyes. People will recognise other images as well in time.

    They could try and change the flag. That went well here, but it's symbolism not identification I reckon.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @Snowy said in Aussie Rugby:

    A company can own a design, logo, etc, but not a symbol or emblem of a country, race, group of people, as a flag should be in my eyes. People will recognise other images as well in time.

    It's an image on a flag, though, rather than being a flag. The link I posted above had the interesting fact that the Rainbow Flag is copyright as well - but the owner chooses not to enforce it.

    This is an unofficial design that now represents a movement. It's annoying, but that's life ... find a new design I guess.

    also, the tino rangatiratanga flag appears to be copyrighted too
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10624124#:~:text=Ms Munn designed the Tino,surviving member of the trio.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    Snowy
    replied to nzzp on last edited by Snowy
    #2348

    @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

    but the owner chooses not to enforce it.

    Very much the point. Draw whatever the fuck you like, but if you want it to be representative of a group of people you have to give it to them.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
    #2349

    @Snowy owned so that they can stop it going on something dodgy, but i think i read one of those that received a cease and desist was a not for profit helping to cloth aboriginals in poor rural communities....

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