Aussie Pro Rugby
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim there is the makings of a decent side there, but they are so light at 4-8
I think talent wise 6-8 they are as strong as they have been for a very long time. Might take some time for it to translate to test level but talent wise it's exciting for Aus.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@Bovidae when every other senior lock leaves at the same time, i think everyone is in favour
Yeah I got a call the other day and reminded Dave I'm a tick under 6' so what the fuck is he thinking?
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
Full time: Force 5 - 57 Reds
Nuff said.
Benefit of billionaire funding...
Force couldn't exit and Reds looked pretty good, well run with O'Connor leading the backline.
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Yeah we totally need the force in super rugby...
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Yeah we totally need the force in super rugby...
Force need recruitment.
Have a higher upside ceiling than alternates.
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
Full time: Force 5 - 57 Reds
Nuff said.
Yeah. 5 teams in Average 10 Rugby comp ey?
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@Kiap said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Yeah we totally need the force in super rugby...
Force need recruitment.
Have a higher upside ceiling than alternates.
Based on their entire history this statement is pretty much bullshit
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I'll stick up for them.
They were thrust into this SuperAU competition at the last minute, and forced to move across the other side of the country where they have been for about two months now.
A number of their recruits have been last minute rush jobs (Lance, Prior, Kahui) and on top of that they've had a bad injury toll (which I'm sure can be attributed partly to the circumstances they are in).
In the last two weeks the wheels have fallen off a bit, but before then they have been competitive every week.
I don't think they will be a Super powerhouse but it's also pretty harsh to judge them on this competition, which has been stacked against them from the beginning.
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No, that's fair.
But they had good crowds and support throughout, and they did have a few years where they put out top 10 sides. I think they had a 6th one year.
Sure that was in the early days of the team, but they have had some success over the years.
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I have followed the Force through GRR and Super rugby. I am staggered and pleased at how competitive they have been up to this week with all the disadvantages sent their way. The other teams had first choice of the players for pete's sake, and they have challenges re travel and preparation time. Have any of the TSF critics been to Perth and seen how strongly the locals support their sports teams?
My background is in community sport delivery and I am saddened by the people who focus on pooling all resources to the top of the tree for their own gratification, while dismissing as unworthy of being opponents, the teams and areas that will provide their competition in the next decade if development pathways there are supported. -
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
they did have a few years where they put out top 10 sides
If there are only ten teams though...
They were 7th in 2007, would have been Super 14 then I think, so just made the top half. A couple of wins over the Crusaders over the years which makes most of us a little more fond of them.
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@ARHS said in Aussie Rugby:
Have any of the TSF critics been to Perth and seen how strongly the locals support their sports teams?
Yes, and I know several of the previous season ticket holders for the Force - they were all South African( but whatever) they were still Force supporters and I did go to a match with them in Perth many years ago. Can't even remember the opposition but the Force lost.
Having teams making up the numbers isn't a great idea for a competition just because they have passionate supporters.
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Short memories.
The Highlanders and Chiefs were shit (and boring) for years but were still allowed to play. The Blues were fucking kidding themselves for long periods.
Nobody is saying the Reds can't be in a new 10 team comp, despite them having a decade of utter dross up until their title, then shitting the bed after.
If, and it is admittedly a big if, RA get their shit together and we start seeing some genuine support for all the Aussie teams, the Force will be fine.
However, geography is against them. And it would need RA to start using Twiggy's money wisely #faust
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@NTA Not really Nick. Highlanders results aren't that bad.
The Chiefs had a few good results:
Force average a little over 5 wins per season. Highlanders a little under 7. Chiefs 9.75. Different sample sizes given the Force only had ten years or so, but that was the expanded ten years where there were weaker teams too (Cheetahs, Kings, early Jags). If I just do those ten years it will look even worse.
Highlanders (rugby union) - Wikipedia
