Aussie Pro Rugby
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@rotated said in Aussie Rugby in general:
If the conclusion is that it wasn't a disaster then you may as well pack up and call it a day.
The broader discussion is about whether Australian Rugby still can be considered - even by itself - a Tier 1 Nation given the last 2 decades of decline.
So, yes.
Really, Tier 2? That'll be the only Tier 2 country to defeat the ABs this year (EVER) and by a bloody good margin, red card notwithsatnding. Wallabies can do it but not with a coach whos ideas are set in stone and based on some mythical pure Ozzie way, refuses to work collegiately, and at the same time as being a coach who doesn't analyse opposition and has the biggest tinfoil hat attitude this side of Trump.
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Who is leaving - Foley, Lealiifano, Cooper, Kepu, Kerevi, Genia, Latu, Arnold, Coleman, Pocock??
A new coach is going to need to make some investment in young players and sacrifice short term results
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby in general:
red card notwithsatnding.
Uh, but its WITHstanding. Look at subsequent efforts.
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@dK said in Aussie Rugby in general:
A new coach is going to need to make some investment in young players and sacrifice short term results
Last 2 decades.
In all seriousness: can anyone here honestly say we'll have 30 players - 2 in each position - ready to go for Test Season 2020, with any thought of comfortable victory? Or a credible performance?
Our system is built on schoolboy bullies getting through in shit competitions and occasionally making the next step. We'll still only ever have about 17 good Test players with a few extras hoping to run the clock down in the last 20 minutes with this setup.
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It's mixed though, isn't it Nick?
I reckon we've got six test standard props, for example - AAA, Sio, Slipper, Tupou, Robertson and HJH.
But hooker and fly-half are looking pretty bare.
I don't think our talent stocks are the issue at the moment. They are better than they have been in quite a while IMO, even if we're losing some of our more experienced players.
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Just shows how cheika was a coach for the pre Pro era*. This sort of shit is part of your job as an international player. 4 players is a good compromise, send your four that won't be playing, job done. Then gets uppity when his boss does something boss like, and argues it in public.
- Admittedly amateur days they would have all been their on the free piss!
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Think he's the COO of an insurance company or something.
http://www.interrisk.com.au/irm/content/our-team.aspx?RID=371
PHIL KEARNS MANAGING DIRECTOR
Phil has more than ten years of experience leading financial service organisations, headlined by his previous position as Chief Executive Officer at Centric Wealth, as well as senior positions across divisions at Investec, the South African-based investment bank.
Whilst at Centric Wealth, Phil has been instrumental in building the corporate and private bank client base and introducing investors to innovative opportunities, including property and other alternative investments. Phil has helped transform InterRISK into a multimillion dollar business.So there you go.
That tendency for the "blokey" side to emerge during the commentary thing is obviously appealing for the ratings thing.
Sounds to me like ex-rugby player with a "jobs for the boys role" wheeled out to wine and dine potential investors.
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@junior said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Think he's the COO of an insurance company or something.
http://www.interrisk.com.au/irm/content/our-team.aspx?RID=371
PHIL KEARNS MANAGING DIRECTOR
Phil has more than ten years of experience leading financial service organisations, headlined by his previous position as Chief Executive Officer at Centric Wealth, as well as senior positions across divisions at Investec, the South African-based investment bank.
Whilst at Centric Wealth, Phil has been instrumental in building the corporate and private bank client base and introducing investors to innovative opportunities, including property and other alternative investments. Phil has helped transform InterRISK into a multimillion dollar business.So there you go.
That tendency for the "blokey" side to emerge during the commentary thing is obviously appealing for the ratings thing.
Sounds to me like ex-rugby player with a "jobs for the boys role" wheeled out to wine and dine potential investors.
Meh. Show me an executive who isn't
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@junior said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Think he's the COO of an insurance company or something.
http://www.interrisk.com.au/irm/content/our-team.aspx?RID=371
PHIL KEARNS MANAGING DIRECTOR
Phil has more than ten years of experience leading financial service organisations, headlined by his previous position as Chief Executive Officer at Centric Wealth, as well as senior positions across divisions at Investec, the South African-based investment bank.
Whilst at Centric Wealth, Phil has been instrumental in building the corporate and private bank client base and introducing investors to innovative opportunities, including property and other alternative investments. Phil has helped transform InterRISK into a multimillion dollar business.So there you go.
That tendency for the "blokey" side to emerge during the commentary thing is obviously appealing for the ratings thing.
Sounds to me like ex-rugby player with a "jobs for the boys role" wheeled out to wine and dine potential investors.
Meh. Show me an executive who isn't
I agree, wholeheartedly. I'm never surprised when an ex-sportsperson holds a high-paying corporate executive role - it's one of the benefits of having been a high-level sportsperson (along with all that poontang, obviously).
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Morgan Turinui - breaker-upper of fights betwixt coach and CEO - wrote an article on The Next Coach
https://www.therugbyruckus.com/2019/10/23/the-who-and-how-of-the-next-wallabies-coach/
It is an interesting read from a guy who I'd like to see in the coaching ranks ongoing.
EDIT: keeping in mind Morgs is a Randwick guy and reasonably close with Cheika, I think the thing I appreciate is he's fairly neutral about the outcome.
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@junior said in Aussie Rugby:
I agree, wholeheartedly. I'm never surprised when an ex-sportsperson holds a high-paying corporate executive role - it's one of the benefits of having been a high-level sportsperson (along with all that poontang, obviously).
Well it’s hard to begrudge Kearns one of he two then Isn’t it?
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Here’s an open letter from Krusty to Aussie rugby fans
'My farewell to players and fans' by Michael Cheika | Year in Review
Michael Cheika signs off as coach, revealing an emotional bond with two Wallabies who lost their fathers, and the team's battle with 'friendly fire'. And he thanks the 'amazing' fans who have been more passionate than ever before despite Australian rugby's many problems.
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@jegga To paraphrase 'I am gutted cos we couldn't australia enough for you fans. The next coach should ozzie even more FTW!'
You have to marvel at the level of denial and cuntitude that makes Krusty put results in quotation marks.
We were not good enough to come away with victory and we are all judged by ‘results’ but as we’ve said to each other before inside our dressing room – your worthiness comes from believing in yourself implicitly first, then results will come from that. I have been honoured and proud to serve you all.
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What kind of bullshit is going here? How is it that Castle thinks it's a good idea to not only undermine her coach by inviting players to a gala dinner, without his knowledge, behind is back but then also blame the entire WC failure on someone her employer is currently locked in a legal stoush with??
Izzy's lawyers will be loving this shit. He wasn't there but is being blamed for the failure...
Life after Cheika: The bolters to make first Wallabies team of 2020
