All Blacks XV 2024
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:
Kellow had a decent season, certainly better than Christie. But it does add fuel to the fire about not liking Blues loose forwards. I would have chosen Segner for his utility value.
I'd have preferred Segner or Withy at seven, not too fussed though.
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@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.
I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there.
TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.
Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.
Nostrabooboo
Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.
Jeez that's a big call, Kirifi was the difference maker for the Lions, especially against Waikato in the semi. His leadership alone is only matched by a small few in New Zealand. I recall Kellow playing well for Canterbury but not to the extent of Kirifi since he's come back.
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@frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.
Where does it say that? Source please?
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.
Where does it say that? Source please?
Not sure about Parker but see below for updates.
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.
Where does it say that? Source please?
Jump on the ABs XV Facebook page...
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So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:
- George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
- Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
- George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
- Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
- Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
- Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
- Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
- Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
- Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
- Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
- Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
- Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
- Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
- Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
- Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
- Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
- Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
- Caleb Delany (Hurricanes / Wellington)
- Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
- Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
- Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
- Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:
Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
Josh Lord (Chiefs / Taranaki)*
Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)Bower an AB injuey replacement, but not good enough to start ahead od the Hurricanes prop... or just a personal preference. With my personal preference I'd have Ma'u starting at tighthead
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:
Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
Josh Lord (Chiefs / Taranaki)*
Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)Bower an AB injuey replacement, but not good enough to start ahead od the Hurricanes prop... or just a personal preference. With my personal preference I'd have Ma'u starting at tighthead
Yeah I was meant to update that after Bower was called in to the ABs. Have updated above. Numia though unlucky, as if it wasn't for injury later in Super he may have made the original AB squad of the year. Was definitely in front of Bower.
I've also taken out Lord, promoted Walker-Leawere and have added Delany as lock/blindside reserve.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:
To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.
IMO all the ABs squad returnees will start
I am referring to the 2-3 players who could bounce between squads, not the extras from Japan.
I wouldn't read too much into 6 players that went to Japan, as they excluded any involved in the final.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Fuck off you poaching bastard.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
Fuck off you poaching bastard.
Haha oops. Good spot mate. We’d take him for sure though. 😜
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.
I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there.
TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.
Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.
Nostrabooboo
Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.
Jeez that's a big call, Kirifi was the difference maker for the Lions, especially against Waikato in the semi. His leadership alone is only matched by a small few in New Zealand. I recall Kellow playing well for Canterbury but not to the extent of Kirifi since he's come back.
An opinion I'm sticking by. Reckon he has a higher ceiling. Will be a good challenger for Lakai to compete with.
Just for me I reckon he's got a bit of physicality about him (on both sides of the ball
).For the record, I'm neutral for both player's Super and NPC teams. (Although DPK's dad was my first ever Senior A club coach ... from some time before .young fulla was born.)
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@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.
I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there.
TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.
Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.
Nostrabooboo
Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.
Jeez that's a big call, Kirifi was the difference maker for the Lions, especially against Waikato in the semi. His leadership alone is only matched by a small few in New Zealand. I recall Kellow playing well for Canterbury but not to the extent of Kirifi since he's come back.
An opinion I'm sticking by. Reckon he has a higher ceiling. Will be a good challenger for Lakai to compete with.
Just for me I reckon he's got a bit of physicality about him (on both sides of the ball
).For the record, I'm neutral for both player's Super and NPC teams. (Although DPK's dad was my first ever Senior A club coach ... from some time before .young fulla was born.)
Fair call mate, he's definitely better than Christie so at least he got the call-up before him.
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Kirifi is one hell of a warrior, the guy seems tough as nails but has let himself down over the years with some brain farts. I am hoping he can sort the mental side of things out while his body is still holding up. He is one of those players whom I think is underestimated. Not saying he should be an AB, but I have always enjoyed watching him play.
As for Kellow, he has played well this NPC, the best I have seen him consistently play. Time for him to do it at Super level.
