Elliott Dixon
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@MN5 said in Elliott Dixon:
That try that he got in the Super rugby final in 2015 would indicate he has a shitload of ball carrying ability. Where has this "no power" myth come from ?
I wouldn't say "no power" he just isn't "Kaino power" -to be fair not many are. I would put him more in the Read and Luatua mobile loosie category. Messam i would have as a hybrid between the two. Squire i would put in the Kaino category.
So basically i think he is behind Read and doesn't offer what they want from a bench 6 as much as Squire does. No idea why he hasn't been released to NPC. Maybe they want him in camp soaking up as much knowledge as possible.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
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@pukunui said in Elliott Dixon:
@MN5 said in Elliott Dixon:
That try that he got in the Super rugby final in 2015 would indicate he has a shitload of ball carrying ability. Where has this "no power" myth come from ?
I wouldn't say "no power" he just isn't "Kaino power" -to be fair not many are. I would put him more in the Read and Luatua mobile loosie category. Messam i would have as a hybrid between the two. Squire i would put in the Kaino category.
So basically i think he is behind Read and doesn't offer what they want from a bench 6 as much as Squire does. No idea why he hasn't been released to NPC. Maybe they want him in camp soaking up as much knowledge as possible.
Again, self confessed non highlanders watcher but I wouldn't put Squire in the Kaino category quite yet although I might be judging him harsher than I should based on his 'do.
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@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) than Akira ever has.
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'''@Kirwan said in Elliott Dixon:
@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) that Akira ever has.'''
Probably been playing a bit longer then Akira?
I thought the no DH rules was more for outside of rugby rather than DH's in the game. I mean Coles would have been long ago if that rung true
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@Hooroo said in Elliott Dixon:
'''@Kirwan said in Elliott Dixon:
@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) that Akira ever has.'''
Probably been playing a bit longer then Akira?
I thought the no DH rules was more for outside of rugby rather than DH's in the game. I mean Coles would have been long ago if that rung true
And Brodie, top head rubber after penalties.
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I don't see any reason why Akira needs to be in the ABs right now. I quite like the loose forward options we've been using and would like to see a bit more of them.
Reiko on the other hand might be worth an EOYT spot if we still have midfielders/wings still broken
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Akira may have issues with the "better people" element - he quite often comes across as a bit of a dick on the field. Just needs to channel that competitive spirit a little better IMO.
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@ACT-Crusader Because Akira is a stud and has more potential than Squire, Dixon and Todd. You can't teach the size, speed, skill and mongrel of this guy. If he is not on the EOYT I would be surprised.
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@MajorRage said in Elliott Dixon:
@mimic Kaino also got in the AB's too young, and needed to do some growing up before he became the player that he still is today.
I don't know enough about the Akira Ioane situation, but from the above it does seem like there are parallels.
My impression is he is a physical beast, power , pace and ball skills , looks to have everything physically you could ask for in a 6/8
But no idea about the person or what is between the ears ,
the good thing is , in our current situation , there is no rush to bring him on too quickly , time is on our side ,
I have a feeling he may be the long term replacement for Read at 8 , in 3 or 4 years time he will be 24/25 , perfect
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Akira may have more potential than those currently in the AB squad, but from what I've seen he doesn't appear to have the physical stamina for an AB loose forward. He has that dynamic ability in attack and can run and take defenders with him, but I don't see those abilities as the highest priority for the way the ABs use their loose forwards. It's all the other little things about ruck accuracy, realignment quickly etc that the coaches/trainers seem to look at.
No doubt with all the testing and numbers that the ABs do and working with players throughout the year (not just when they are in camp), they will have seen Akira's numbers and if they stacked up he probably would've been selected.
So in this current cycle there's no need to rush him in there. He's just turned 21 so plenty of time for him to get more top level footy under his belt.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Elliott Dixon:
Akira may have more potential than those currently in the AB squad, but from what I've seen he doesn't appear to have the physical stamina for an AB loose forward. He has that dynamic ability in attack and can run and take defenders with him, but I don't see those abilities as the highest priority for the way the ABs use their loose forwards. It's all the other little things about ruck accuracy, realignment quickly etc that the coaches/trainers seem to look at.
No doubt with all the testing and numbers that the ABs do and working with players throughout the year (not just when they are in camp), they will have seen Akira's numbers and if they stacked up he probably would've been selected.
So in this current cycle there's no need to rush him in there. He's just turned 21 so plenty of time for him to get more top level footy under his belt.
Andrew Blowers did all of the wonderful things that Ioane does but Kronfeld and Randell were always in the pecking order above him despite him being the best athlete of them to a casual observer......
In terms of this "dickish" behaviour is this referring to him having a bit of tete a tete with Jimmy Cowan ? ( I caught highlights of that game )
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@MN5 said in Elliott Dixon:
Andrew Blowers did all of the wonderful things that Ioane does but Kronfeld and Randell were always in the pecking order above him despite him being the best athlete of them to a casual observer......
Yeah, whole host of guys who were superb atheletes but the ABs went with people with better focus & accuracy long term instead, Blowers, Vito, Lauaki, Cribb, Schueler, Thompson, Tiatia, even Kaino in his early days.
Half of those guys probably lost out (rightly) to Rueben Thorne.
