Elliott Dixon
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Word on the street is he's settling in well to his newly bestowed title as All Black Foodbill.
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Thought he played for Southland. Or did i make that up?
Hard to work out where he fits in in the pecking order. Made the Wales series "ahead" of squire, got a start but hasn't been seen since but still got selected ahead of an in form Luatua. I wonder if he will turn out to be a bit like Adam Thompson, a bit of a 6.5 in that he isn't a traditional NZ 7 (not to mention having lots of guys ahead of him there) but doesn't really offer the power game of the AB's 6 of the last decade or so. Maybe 8 would be his best fit but he is behind Read there so may not get a look in unless Read is injured.
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@pukunui said in Elliott Dixon:
Thought he played for Southland. Or did i make that up?
Hard to work out where he fits in in the pecking order. Made the Wales series "ahead" of squire, got a start but hasn't been seen since but still got selected ahead of an in form Luatua. I wonder if he will turn out to be a bit like Adam Thompson, a bit of a 6.5 in that he isn't a traditional NZ 7 (not to mention having lots of guys ahead of him there) but doesn't really offer the power game of the AB's 6 of the last decade or so. Maybe 8 would be his best fit but he is behind Read there so may not get a look in unless Read is injured.
Squire probably fits the Kaino 6 role better.Dixon is probably the best lineout loose forward in NZ along with Read. Excellent hands and balance.
I think his style is closer to Messam in terms of what he does in the tight. I don't think many would put Messam in the "power" category, but I thought he was very effective especially when Kaino went overseas.
Dixon had a mixed 1st start and he probably has a number of work ons. But he's on,y just turned 27 so there's no reason why he can't be in the mix for a few years if he keeps improving.
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You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
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@MN5 same place all other myths on here come from!
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@taniwharugby said in Elliott Dixon:
@MN5 same place all other myths on here come from!
True, once the fern labels someone as "can do that" or "can't do that" she's a pretty tough break to bounce back from.
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@MN5 said in Elliott Dixon:
That try that he got in the Super rugby final in 2015 would indicate he has a shitload of ball carrying ability. Where has this "no power" myth come from ?
I wouldn't say "no power" he just isn't "Kaino power" -to be fair not many are. I would put him more in the Read and Luatua mobile loosie category. Messam i would have as a hybrid between the two. Squire i would put in the Kaino category.
So basically i think he is behind Read and doesn't offer what they want from a bench 6 as much as Squire does. No idea why he hasn't been released to NPC. Maybe they want him in camp soaking up as much knowledge as possible.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
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@pukunui said in Elliott Dixon:
@MN5 said in Elliott Dixon:
That try that he got in the Super rugby final in 2015 would indicate he has a shitload of ball carrying ability. Where has this "no power" myth come from ?
I wouldn't say "no power" he just isn't "Kaino power" -to be fair not many are. I would put him more in the Read and Luatua mobile loosie category. Messam i would have as a hybrid between the two. Squire i would put in the Kaino category.
So basically i think he is behind Read and doesn't offer what they want from a bench 6 as much as Squire does. No idea why he hasn't been released to NPC. Maybe they want him in camp soaking up as much knowledge as possible.
Again, self confessed non highlanders watcher but I wouldn't put Squire in the Kaino category quite yet although I might be judging him harsher than I should based on his 'do.
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@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) than Akira ever has.
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'''@Kirwan said in Elliott Dixon:
@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) that Akira ever has.'''
Probably been playing a bit longer then Akira?
I thought the no DH rules was more for outside of rugby rather than DH's in the game. I mean Coles would have been long ago if that rung true
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@Hooroo said in Elliott Dixon:
'''@Kirwan said in Elliott Dixon:
@Unco said in Elliott Dixon:
@kiwiinmelb said in Elliott Dixon:
You wonder at what point Akira Ioane will get the call up , not that there is any rush , none really
But you would think that one is a matter of when they think he is ready
And when it does happen , does he push someone out
Akira needs to be told the ABs have a no dickhead policy and to sort out his shit.
Is someone going to tell Cane about this policy? He gives away more penalties for off the ball play (and was lucky not get pinged in the Argie test for that push) that Akira ever has.'''
Probably been playing a bit longer then Akira?
I thought the no DH rules was more for outside of rugby rather than DH's in the game. I mean Coles would have been long ago if that rung true
And Brodie, top head rubber after penalties.
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I don't see any reason why Akira needs to be in the ABs right now. I quite like the loose forward options we've been using and would like to see a bit more of them.
Reiko on the other hand might be worth an EOYT spot if we still have midfielders/wings still broken
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Akira may have issues with the "better people" element - he quite often comes across as a bit of a dick on the field. Just needs to channel that competitive spirit a little better IMO.
