Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
What year did we lose 6? I remember 1998, that was so shit it felt like we did nothing but lose
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@gt12 said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
If we lost to Italy and he stayed in the job, it would show that the NZRU is completely rotten.
I actually think / hope we'll go OK, but that feeling is also very selection dependent. I reserve the right to go full Tim if some of these
strangeone eyed undeserved Saders picks continue and we pay the price.Fixed
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@nzzp said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@bayimports said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
I think we've already blown a decent season, could be closer to hitting annus horribilis than a decent season if not careful just based on results. (as we have played well in patches)
most AB losses in a year was 6
1998 was 5
We're at 3, and counting.
Given 1949 shouldn't count for reasons @Bovidae states, 1998, should be that. Its not entirely unthinkable we match 98 if not pass it. Which is my point, we could be in new territory here. Hopefully not of course
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@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lost to Argentina at home.
That's the kicker. Take that out and it's damn near acceptable to date.
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to answer the initial question
i think it is far more likely that we go 3-2 than 2-3 on this tour.
wait, our last two European tours have been a bit shit
2022 we went 3-1-0, just beat Japan, smashed Wales, just beat Scotland, then drew with England
2021 we went 3-2, hammering US, Wales and Italy, but losing to Ireland and France.
Without our usual ritual disembowelment of Wales, it's a lot harder.
so yeah fuck knows. unbeaten and i would call the year a success. 4-1 i give the year a pass mark. 3-2 is substandard. 2-3 a shitshow. 1-4 a fucking disaster of national proportions.
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@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
to answer the initial question
i think it is far more likely that we go 3-2 than 2-3 on this tour.
wait, our last two European tours have been a bit shit
2022 we went 3-1-0, just beat Japan, smashed Wales, just beat Scotland, then drew with England
2021 we went 3-2, hammering US, Wales and Italy, but losing to Ireland and France.
Without our usual ritual disembowelment of Wales, it's a lot harder.
so yeah fuck knows. unbeaten and i would call the year a success. 4-1 i give the year a pass mark. 3-2 is substandard. 2-3 a shitshow. 1-4 a fucking disaster of national proportions.
You didn't rat 0 - 5 ...
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@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lost to Argentina at home.
That's the kicker. Take that out and it's damn near acceptable to date.
nah, losing that first test to South Africa is a real blemish. We had that game won on more than one occasion and should have been good enough to put it away. And even test 2 we were 13-12 with one Bok in the bin and we failed to score again. it's not the results, it's the manner of them that grates.
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@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
to answer the initial question
i think it is far more likely that we go 3-2 than 2-3 on this tour.
wait, our last two European tours have been a bit shit
2022 we went 3-1-0, just beat Japan, smashed Wales, just beat Scotland, then drew with England
2021 we went 3-2, hammering US, Wales and Italy, but losing to Ireland and France.
Without our usual ritual disembowelment of Wales, it's a lot harder.
so yeah fuck knows. unbeaten and i would call the year a success. 4-1 i give the year a pass mark. 3-2 is substandard. 2-3 a shitshow. 1-4 a fucking disaster of national proportions.
You didn't rat 0 - 5 ...
don't come home, any of you
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@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lost to Argentina at home.
That's the kicker. Take that out and it's damn near acceptable to date.
nah, losing that first test to South Africa is a real blemish. We had that game won on more than one occasion and should have been good enough to put it away. And even test 2 we were 13-12 with one Bok in the bin and we failed to score again. it's not the results, it's the manner of them that grates.
glass half empty mate, I think the way we played to get into that winning position was well above expectations.
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It’s a great time for rugby union IMHO
Plenty of teams can beat plenty of teams on the day
I think the ABs will beat Japan, England and Italy and lose to both Ireland and France
But in this topsy turvy season the opposite could also happen
It’s all about the 23 selected and how they interpret and react to the differing officiating teams
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One win against England, Ireland or France would be acceptable as long as we are making progress on maintaining focus and re-learning to tough things out. Progress more than just results at this stage for me.
Three losses and/or a close result against Italy or Japan will be seriously disappointing..
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@reprobate said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lose another loosie to injury and we might well improve our chances.
Injury's been the best selector so far this season.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@reprobate said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lose another loosie to injury and we might well improve our chances.
Injury's been the best selector so far this season.
multiple seasons.
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@BerniesCorner said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
We have uncovered a lot of new players this year. 2/3 will be a good result.
I think another big improvement has been players live Vaa'i who've come into the team in the last few years maturing,
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@MiketheSnow said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
It’s all about the 23 selected and how they interpret and react to the differing officiating teams
Especially if all the proposed rule changes are introduced, I'm sure we will see red cards, what will be interesting will also be how the new proposals potentially impact the outcome of the game given so many opinions on them
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@Nepia said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@Chris-B said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
As just one example, half the Fern has been calling for Ardie Savea to be dropped. But, he's the reigning World Player of the Year. Wouldn't it be a lot more sensible to back him, coach him where he's been making errors and expect that he'll come right?
It would be sensible, but do this lot have that ability?
I would have thought Razor would have before this year but his feet seem stuck in cement, and Tubby Ryan is probably too busy getting his dong sucked by Shannon while throwing axes at Blues marketing posters, to be effective at anything.
Jeez, the imagery....
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@reprobate said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@booboo said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
@mariner4life said in Poll: AB wins on EOYT for a decent season:
Lost to Argentina at home.
That's the kicker. Take that out and it's damn near acceptable to date.
nah, losing that first test to South Africa is a real blemish. We had that game won on more than one occasion and should have been good enough to put it away. And even test 2 we were 13-12 with one Bok in the bin and we failed to score again. it's not the results, it's the manner of them that grates.
glass half empty mate, I think the way we played to get into that winning position was well above expectations.
No, getting dominated in the final 20 of nearly every single test is a big red flag that the game plan is not suited to test footy. The last 20 minutes is where tests are won and lost, as we found out over and over again.
I can't ever remember an AB team that has been so poor in the final quarter. The good teams always finish the strongest, often after weathering a storm. We are not a good team right now.
