All Blacks EOYT
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:
I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".
Cane will absolutely start against England, Ireland and France.
Perenara will probably be on the bench for most of those games, as will Blackadder (and he'll very likely get a start in one of them).
But Sititi, Cane, Savea, Ratima, McKenzie is the spine of the top team now.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
But Sititi, Cane, Savea, Ratima, McKenzie is the spine of the top team now.
Certainly what I'd expect vs England- but, I'm only an interested spectator.
I don't really get why people think the coaches are out to scupper us.
They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!
Remember when Foster picked ScoBa at 6 vs England in the QF in 19 and benched Sam? And then didn't attack the english lineout? Yeah, I remember that
3D chess, or coaches just playing hunches and going wrong.Edit: Hansen and semi. As you were.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:
They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!
Remember when Foster picked ScoBa at 6 vs England in the QF in 19 and benched Sam? And then didn't attack the english lineout? Yeah, I remember that
3D chess, or coaches just playing hunches and going wrong.I thought that was Hansen.
Still makes me bloody angry.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:
Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.
Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.
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Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.
Me too, I mean me neither...
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@nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:
Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.
Fair. It was 1am and I was tired
So were the selectors for that '19 semi final apparently....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:
@nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:
Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.
Fair. It was 1am and I was tired
So were the selectors for that '19 semi final apparently....
not the first time. In (I think) 07 Byron Kelleher had been looking great off the bench ... so they started him. Turns out starting and coming on against tired bodies isn't the same thing.
Selection is hard, but like Rugby can be made as simple or as complex as you like. I worry we're trying to be too cute at times, both in selection and tactics.
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@WestieFella said in All Blacks EOYT:
Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.
Me too, I mean me neither...
#meneither
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Unsure if this is public knowledge but haven’t seen it anywhere.
Have been told that the AB squad is meeting this Wednesday and fly out on Thursday so don’t expect any of them to be playing in the NPC. As far as the AB XV players, I’m not sure.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks EOYT:
Unsure if this is public knowledge but haven’t seen it anywhere.
Have been told that the AB squad is meeting this Wednesday and fly out on Thursday so don’t expect any of them to be playing in the NPC. As far as the AB XV players, I’m not sure.
AB XV players will fly out after the NPC final.
You’re defs correct re the ABs. When TJ played his last game for Welly it was mentioned the ABs wouldn’t be available this week.
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The departure date for the ABs has been mentioned in the media. The only unknown is who amongst the AB XV squad are also going to Japan, and when they leave. That could impact NPC availability.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:
The departure date for the ABs has been mentioned in the media. The only unknown is who amongst the AB XV squad are also going to Japan, and when they leave. That could impact NPC availability.
Trying a little bit of math - IF they were to send the starting XV for England on ahead, then that would leave 21 AB players in Japan.
From the AB XV they'd need two guys who were actually going to play in the game - plus four - which would likely be cover in case someone goes down in the warm-ups - so probably two props, a hooker and a halfback?
For the latter four already e.g. Bower, Renata, Slater and Hotham are free.
If you pick your starting XV for the All Blacks (going on to England), you could likely work out two positions where they need the extra players.
I think a lock and a wing - maybe a first five. So maybe Lord, Naholo and/or Plummer?
I'd be disappointed if they took anyone who is still required for NPC.
Of course, this could all be bollocks!
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@Machpants See the last line.
The only thing that makes me think that maybe they'll send the entire starting XV is Razor specifically saying they'll take 6 AB XV players - because the math does add up to that.
