If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?
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@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
McAllister, Hannah, Gallagher, Hannah, Grace, Christie, Lio-Willie, Gardiner, McLeod, Ennor, Fihaki and Springer all feature on top of the guys already in the All Blacks Squad. Some of those guys are obviously fringe and would deserve their selections, and would be picked by any coach.
Please list them:
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@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
McAllister, Hannah, Gallagher, Hannah, Grace, Christie, Lio-Willie, Gardiner, McLeod, Ennor, Fihaki and Springer all feature on top of the guys already in the All Blacks Squad. Some of those guys are obviously fringe and would deserve their selections, and would be picked by any coach.
Please list them:
McAllister is within the top six hookers in New Zealand.
One of Hannah or Gallagher to be fair is probably in the next best four locks
Lio-Willie (and maybe Christie) would be in the next six best loose forwards
McLeod got an All Blacks cap last year for a reason. I'd have him in the next 4 best midfielders
Think you could also make a pretty legitimate argument based on potential to select Springer too. -
@Crazy-Horse said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby refresh my memory, what was the 'everything' the selectors did to avoid picking Darry?
I think the fact that they only named him as injury cover (even though there was only three locks in the squad), and choosing to have the injured Josh Lord assembled with them was a pretty fair indicator that they weren't interested in him.
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The tight 5 are pretty much humming, cant do much more but go up against the northerners.
Concerns around the loosies and backs, whether Razor continues with playing the fast game for 80mins in the north.
Does Savea need to come off the bench with a Taukei’aho??
BB to start and DMac to finish. More or less the same player.
Ratima and Roigard will take care of the
halves.
Or could be a complete game change!! -
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
McAllister, Hannah, Gallagher, Hannah, Grace, Christie, Lio-Willie, Gardiner, McLeod, Ennor, Fihaki and Springer all feature on top of the guys already in the All Blacks Squad. Some of those guys are obviously fringe and would deserve their selections, and would be picked by any coach.
Please list them:
McAllister is within the top six hookers in New Zealand.
McAllister who managed to play only four games this year for the worst New Zealand team? With five franchises only three (presumably starting hookers) are better than him?
One of Hannah or Gallagher to be fair is probably in the next best four locks
Hannah certainly isn't. I'd add Delany, Grant, maybe Selby-Rickit, Parkinson, McWhannell based on Super Rugby form.
Lio-Willie (and maybe Christie) would be in the next six best loose forwards
So presumably fifth and sixth after we've accounted for 11 already and two notable exemptions?
McLeod got an All Blacks cap last year for a reason. I'd have him in the next 4 best midfielders
Think you could also make a pretty legitimate argument based on potential to select Springer too.I think I'm being trolled. So many potential All Blacks if everyone else gets injured from the worst team this year. Amazing stuff.
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Pros: Forwards coming along well - tight 5 has some depth. Sititi looks the goods. Half-back options looking good. Attack seems a bit more fluid. Caleb C realising his potential. Exits looking better (is it just me?). Goalkicking is good. Fewer stupid chip-kicks.
Cons: Loose forwards still not right. Need depth at 10. Midfield still meh. Flaky discipline. Ability to maintain focus seems to be getting worse and disappears at inconvenient times. Poor on-field leadership. Unfathomable selections. Not enough player development in places.
Bit like a pint of Schrodinger's IPA for me. Would like to see players like Darry, Proctor & Plummer given more game time and to build combinations. RC has been lost and Robertson has a tough EOYT so more interested in progress rather than results at this stage. Think we'll beat Ireland though.
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I didn't realize Havili was so good he could play 2 positions off the bench
All Blacks: 1 Ethan de Groot 2 Codie Taylor 3 Tyrel Lomax 4 Scott Barrett (c) 5 Tupou Vaa'i 6 Wallace Sititi 7 Sam Cane 8 Ardie Savea 9 TJ Perenara 10 Beauden Barrett 11 Caleb Clarke 12 Anton Lienert-Brown 13 Rieko Ioane 14 Sevu Reece 15 Will Jordan
All Blacks v Australia: Has Robertson missed an opportunity?
Change is evident in the All Blacks, but Scott Robertson could have pulled the trigger on at least a couple of players this weekend, writes Jamie Wall.
Bench: 16 Asafo Aumua 17 Tamaiti Williams 18 Pasilio Tosi 19 Patrick Tuipulotu 20 Luke Jacobson 21 Cortez Ratima 22 David Havili 23 David Havili
I do think they could have had Proctor on the bench and moved Rieko to the wing (14) later in the game-he looks dangerous on the wing late in the game.. Really in an emergency Proctor could cover 12.
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But am I happy heading into the end of the year? No, I really think they could have been more polished and spend more time on learning NH referee interpretations!
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@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
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@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
Dude what the fuck ?
The English are Scotlands bitches at the moment, especially when Duhan De Merwe runs wild.
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
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@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
Dude what the fuck ?
The English are Scotlands bitches at the moment, especially when Duhan De Merwe runs wild.
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Scotland have been good latterly but had a run of over a decade when they couldn’t buy a win
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@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
Dude what the fuck ?
The English are Scotlands bitches at the moment, especially when Duhan De Merwe runs wild.
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Scotland have been good latterly but had a run of over a decade when they couldn’t buy a win
.. so they bought a South African...
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@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
Dude what the fuck ?
The English are Scotlands bitches at the moment, especially when Duhan De Merwe runs wild.
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Scotland have been good latterly but had a run of over a decade when they couldn’t buy a win
.. so they bought
alots of South Africans...FIFY
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@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Be nice to Mike, he's looking over his shoulder at Georgia and Samoa....
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Scotland and Wales won't be too happy going into the end of the year, this year would have been a golden opportunity for them to beat us.
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@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MiketheSnow said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Surely beating a team ranked tenth in the world at home is expected, not a cause for celebration?
That’s the English mindset when they play Wales and Scotland
We’ve seen the wheels come off the chariot far too many times for NZ to consider this a gimme
Dude what the fuck ?
The English are Scotlands bitches at the moment, especially when Duhan De Merwe runs wild.
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Scotland have been good latterly but had a run of over a decade when they couldn’t buy a win
Close to two decades to be fair. Thank god Italy showed up to make them look better in the 6N ( sometimes )
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@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Don’t try and drag the prood Scots ( still ranked 7th ) down with your crap lot
Be nice to Mike, he's looking over his shoulder at Georgia and Samoa....
Have been for a while
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@MN5 said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
.. so they bought
alots of South Africans...FIFY
from the very far south of Scotland indeed.
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@nzzp said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@frugby said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Roigard will be back, presumably in place of Perenara
Suspect TJ goes at the expense of Noah. But who knows
The AB XV is same region when tests played so argument for giving Hotham and Bell game time there, and can always be called across if there’s an injury.
