Super Rugby 2025
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2025:
@darylmitchell said in Super Rugby 2025:
Same old format, except now there's more bye-round weeks for everyone.
All teams play an uneven amount of games against half of the teams.
Refuse to have an open player market like other leagues do.
This competition will be gone in 5 years time.
how isn;t there an open player market?
Yeah I don't see Super Rugby existing in the future, it's dying a slow death unless a miracle happens and these idiots that manage the show somehow turn things around. If they ease the rules towards picking overseas players for international footy in this country, that will only speed up the process.
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@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2025:
@darylmitchell said in Super Rugby 2025:
Same old format, except now there's more bye-round weeks for everyone.
All teams play an uneven amount of games against half of the teams.
Refuse to have an open player market like other leagues do.
This competition will be gone in 5 years time.
how isn;t there an open player market?
Yeah I don't see Super Rugby existing in the future, it's dying a slow death unless something majorly drastic happens. If they ease the rules towards picking overseas players for international footy in this country, that will only speed up the process.
oh, he means to be selected for the AB's? thats not really a super rugby rule
much like i think if we make a strong and robust competition then the best players will want to stay and play at least partially because a strong and popular competition will attract better sponsors and investors and we'll be able to pay more...i also think it will have a natural flow onto the the AB's success
at the moment i feel like its the tail wagging the dog, frantically tweaking an already broken super rugby to keep the strength we still have....
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2025:
@darylmitchell said in Super Rugby 2025:
Same old format, except now there's more bye-round weeks for everyone.
All teams play an uneven amount of games against half of the teams.
Refuse to have an open player market like other leagues do.
This competition will be gone in 5 years time.
how isn;t there an open player market?
Yeah I don't see Super Rugby existing in the future, it's dying a slow death unless something majorly drastic happens. If they ease the rules towards picking overseas players for international footy in this country, that will only speed up the process.
oh, he means to be selected for the AB's? thats not really a super rugby rule
much like i think if we make a strong and robust competition then the best players will want to stay and play at least partially because a strong and popular competition will attract better sponsors and investors and we'll be able to pay more...i also think it will have a natural flow onto the the AB's success
at the moment i feel like its the tail wagging the dog, frantically tweaking an already broken super rugby to keep the strength we still have....
I just don't have faith in the 'decision makers' these days that they'll even get anywhere close to having a rigid comp in the next five years.
How many times has the competition model been hampered with over the last ten years? I'm an avid follower and I struggle to keep up with the competition continuously changing, along with yearly rule updates etc.
If you're trying to grow the sport or you are aiming to create an engaging product for an audience that is new to the sport, then keeping it simple is surely the way to go. I feel like the lines get more blurred every year which is just so frustrating for fans and it must be even more frustrating for coaches and players.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2025:
@darylmitchell said in Super Rugby 2025:
Same old format, except now there's more bye-round weeks for everyone.
All teams play an uneven amount of games against half of the teams.
Refuse to have an open player market like other leagues do.
This competition will be gone in 5 years time.
how isn;t there an open player market?
All Blacks can't play for Australian teams and vice versa.
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How do you create more diehard fans? Hate to compare to the NRL nut a lot of the fans in that comp are fucking nutcases. Personally I love Super Rugby and I love my team and I'd call myself a fucking nutcase fan and proudly so.
What stopped SR from forming a sense of tribalism?
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@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
How do you create more diehard fans? Hate to compare to the NRL nut a lot of the fans in that comp are fucking nutcases. Personally I love Super Rugby and I love my team and I'd call myself a fucking nutcase fan and proudly so.
What stopped SR from forming a sense of tribalism?
Old data but I suspect it is similar to the current situation (or is worse now), showing that 70% of Super rugby viewers were "born before 1976 and are at least 40 years old." The report states "this drop off in viewership amongst younger generations illustrates the challenges facing traditional sports in a world of increasingly diverse entertainment options."
So, simply put, not enough kids like us have been really engaged, and of the older generation, they are still in love with the NPC (although the percentage of people watching that competition was roughly the same as those watching league).
Edit: That doesn't really answer your question, but the issue thus far has been not creating those fans. I think that there is an issue of people growing into watching rugby, but there is also the issue of people's allegiances being mixed up by the different teams and formats.
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Isn't the post about Leicester better in another thread?
Whitelock, Mounga and Fainga'anuku -is Razor chasing any non-Crusaders overseas players? -
@nostrildamus said in Super Rugby 2025:
Isn't the post about Leicester better in another thread?
Whitelock, Mounga and Fainga'anuku -is Razor chasing any non-Crusaders overseas players?Nah, he's just worried about how bad his true love the Crusaders have become, so he's trying to get them to the top again.
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@nostrildamus nobody is chasing whitelock are they, he has retired? Frizzell has been mentioned previously.
Fihaki is a bizarre selection so there's really no need to make stuff up re bias. -
@reprobate said in Super Rugby 2025:
@nostrildamus nobody is chasing whitelock are they, he has retired? Frizzell has been mentioned previously.
Fihaki is a bizarre selection so there's really no need to make stuff up re bias.I expect much of the banter on here is just that. But surely you find some of the selections puzzling? I hope in 12 months things have become clearer, for the better
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@reprobate said in Super Rugby 2025:
@nostrildamus nobody is chasing whitelock are they, he has retired? Frizzell has been mentioned previously.
Fihaki is a bizarre selection so there's really no need to make stuff up re bias.The article said they were chasing Sam but he decided to retire. Forgot about Frizell but wasn't he more a Ryan obsession? I'm not making up stuff just going off a media article.
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@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
Draws been leaked online.
Opening game is Crusaders v Hurricanes on the 14th of Feb.
Waratahs v Highlanders also on Friday night.
Blues v Chiefs on Saturday at Eden Park.
Interesting.
Must be a deliberate plan to repeat the final in Round 1 given it happened this year too.
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@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
Draws been leaked online.
Opening game is Crusaders v Hurricanes on the 14th of Feb.
Waratahs v Highlanders also on Friday night.
Blues v Chiefs on Saturday at Eden Park.
Love this, probably the first time in 5 years the Canes haven't kicked their season off overseas.
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@Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2025:
Draws been leaked online.
Opening game is Crusaders v Hurricanes on the 14th of Feb.
Waratahs v Highlanders also on Friday night.
Blues v Chiefs on Saturday at Eden Park.
Do you have a link to this?
