ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?
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@OomPB said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@DaGrubster it's not about the quality, it's more then that. The Lions struggled in the first few years but improved and now they top the CC log.
URC's contribution to Bok domination
SPOTLIGHT: The incredible depth in South African game at Test level is the envy of the world.
and the refs. The first year it was all about adopting to their way.
Exposure and ultimately to the refs has to be advantageous. After a while you know their tendencies, and perhaps they start to subconsciously give you the benefit of the doubt
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@canefan we had a rough start in year 1, all our teams was at the bottom of the log after touring. The other is the crowds. It's totally different then Superrugby. Smaller stadia except Leinster and Munster and very passionate. No booing when the kicker lines up. Old fashion rugby culture and passion.
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@canefan said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@OomPB said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@DaGrubster it's not about the quality, it's more then that. The Lions struggled in the first few years but improved and now they top the CC log.
URC's contribution to Bok domination
SPOTLIGHT: The incredible depth in South African game at Test level is the envy of the world.
and the refs. The first year it was all about adopting to their way.
Exposure and ultimately to the refs has to be advantageous. After a while you know their tendencies, and perhaps they start to subconsciously give you the benefit of the doubt
Yes, that is one the big advantage of them playing in the URC to me.
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Don't discard the travel
Getting used to long distance travel and being away from home for a couple of weeks gives an advantage
Especially to less experienced players
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@MiketheSnow said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
Don't discard the travel
Getting used to long distance travel and being away from home for a couple of weeks gives an advantage
Especially to less experienced players
They were already travelling for SR though
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@canefan said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@MiketheSnow said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
Don't discard the travel
Getting used to long distance travel and being away from home for a couple of weeks gives an advantage
Especially to less experienced players
They were already travelling for SR though
Yeh, they always said one of the reasons the wanted to leave (before they actually left @African-Monkey) was that the travel was easy going north-south than west-east.
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@stodders said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@DaGrubster Didn't the NZRU look at something like this years back with Saracens? I think the South Africans took the initiative with Saracens (bankrolled by Johann Rupert)
i thought it was Quins...but yeah, something was announced and i thought we were going to take control of giving coaches and players experience in other leagues....dont think i saw anything come out of it after it was announced
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I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment. -
@Dan54 said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment.I don't think many people are worried about it harming the All Blacks, they're worried about it harming the domestic game.
Also worth noting that South Africa have only had this carte blanche approach for a few years. Once they've cycled through a generation of players who played their formative rugby in South Africa, their situation might be different (but might not). The bigger thing is still the domestic game.
