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  • SnowyS Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

    Lomax and De Groot have the lowest metres per carry out of all props who have played meaningful minutes in the RC. Newell is pretty hopeless in this facet too.

    They're great scrummagers and decent cleaners but they're hopeless with ball in hand. Early on in his career it seemed like this was a strong facet of Lomax but it ain't any more.

    Of the starting tight five there isn't a single strong close in runner that can get the tight forwards going up the middle. Taylor makes most of his metres wider.

    Metres per carry:

    5.5 Tosi
    3.6 Taylor
    1.9 Darry
    1.7 Tuipulotu
    1.6 Tu'ungafasi
    1.5 Vaa'i
    1.3 Williams
    1 Barrett
    1 Aumua
    0.7 Newell
    0.5 De Groot
    0.4 Lomax

    Unsurprisingly the 3 Blues tight forwards are strong in this facet but they are clearly out of favour.

    There's a lack of variety in our game which makes us predictable. We went more up the middle against the Puma's at Eden Park and that was probably our best game of the year.

    If you think the All Blacks problems lie in the tight five, I can't help you.

    Think there is probably something also to be said for the fact that de Groot and Lomax's minutes come in the first half, where in theory the game is less open... and these stats are incredibly volatile, because one 15m run where a player gets put in a hole could affect this by up to a metre.

    The tight 5 is the least of our worries, some of the props coming of the bench may also not have had any or very little carries due to what has been happening in the last 20 minutes.

    That’s the twenty where we kick away the ball, drop it, or get a player or 2 sent off right?

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

    Lomax and De Groot have the lowest metres per carry out of all props who have played meaningful minutes in the RC. Newell is pretty hopeless in this facet too.

    They're great scrummagers and decent cleaners but they're hopeless with ball in hand. Early on in his career it seemed like this was a strong facet of Lomax but it ain't any more.

    Of the starting tight five there isn't a single strong close in runner that can get the tight forwards going up the middle. Taylor makes most of his metres wider.

    Metres per carry:

    5.5 Tosi
    3.6 Taylor
    1.9 Darry
    1.7 Tuipulotu
    1.6 Tu'ungafasi
    1.5 Vaa'i
    1.3 Williams
    1 Barrett
    1 Aumua
    0.7 Newell
    0.5 De Groot
    0.4 Lomax

    Unsurprisingly the 3 Blues tight forwards are strong in this facet but they are clearly out of favour.

    There's a lack of variety in our game which makes us predictable. We went more up the middle against the Puma's at Eden Park and that was probably our best game of the year.

    If you think the All Blacks problems lie in the tight five, I can't help you.

    Think there is probably something also to be said for the fact that de Groot and Lomax's minutes come in the first half, where in theory the game is less open... and these stats are incredibly volatile, because one 15m run where a player gets put in a hole could affect this by up to a metre.

    The tight 5 is the least of our worries, some of the props coming of the bench may also not have had any or very little carries due to what has been happening in the last 20 minutes.

    That’s the twenty where we kick away the ball, drop it, or get a player or 2 sent off right?

    yep

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  • Windows97W Offline
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    Windows97
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    This team is just absolutely fucked mentally.

    It's not so much this player, or that player but as a team they crumble under pressure and are unable to maintain consistency throughout the game.

    They play like they don't want to lose, rather than that they want to win, there's some odd saying like "the dirve to win must overcome the fear of loosing" and this team is abjectily petrified of loosing to the point they freeze totally in the last 20 minutes NO MATTER WHO THEY PLAY.

    The AB's used to be about excellence, about trying to play the perfect game and chasing perfection in each moment of the game.

    This bunch of clowns is chasing their own shadows.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Windows97 on last edited by
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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    It's not so much this player, or that player but as a team they crumble under pressure and are unable to maintain consistency throughout the game.

    it's astonishing the difference between this mental toughness and that of the Crusaders, particularly under Robertson. Their whole hallmark was mental toughness and playing championship minutes. We are not seeing that with this AB side at all.

    Maybe this is Clive without Martin; Razor without Sam?

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    george33
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #6206

    @Chris is Chay Finaki joining ABs ? That's the noise

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to george33 on last edited by
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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris is Chay Finaki joining ABs ? That's the noise

    I have not heard that mate.

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    george33
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    #6208

    @Chris ok u would no, but rumors are floating around, cheers

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    george33
    replied to george33 on last edited by
    #6209

    @george33 so he has joined the squad confirmed

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    Grooter
    replied to george33 on last edited by
    #6210

    @george33 you were right George, it is bizarre tho as Fihaki wouldn't even start at the Landers these days 😂

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    African Monkey
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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris is Chay Finaki joining ABs ? That's the noise

    Well played sir you're right again. You cop a lot of flak on here, but at least you share what you hear.

    Gee I wonder why Fihaki got called up......

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    antipodean
    wrote on last edited by
    #6213

    @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Rumour is Chay Fihaki is called in

    Good. The squad was missing a Crusader or two.

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    george33
    replied to antipodean on last edited by
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    @antipodean as the results say.

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  • 1kiwi1 Offline
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    1kiwi
    wrote on last edited by
    #6215

    What does Fihaki's call up mean for someone like Stevenson?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Fihaki had a good season but it's hard to shake the feeling it's a hell of a lot easier to get called up if you are a Crusader than if you play for another team

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by Bovidae
    #6217

    Or Narawa. It's not like the squad is missing someone who can play fullback...

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to george33 on last edited by
    #6218

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @george33 so he has joined the squad confirmed

    Good from you George

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    george33
    replied to 1kiwi on last edited by
    #6219

    @1kiwi yeah think Stephenson is just about gone to League, unfortunately

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    george33
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #6220

    @Chris what's your opinion on Chris ? definitely got potential.

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  • YeetyaahY Offline
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    Yeetyaah
    wrote on last edited by
    #6221

    Nah man Chay Fihaki? Razor is fucking tweeeeaking.

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