NPC Crowds
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@Dan54 said in NPC Crowds:
I will guarantee one other thing, I bet if you ask NRL do they think NZ should drop NPC? Theyt would say yep, more players for us to get.
I don't think NPC salaries are stopping anyone going to league
More fully pro players would actually help
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@Nepia said in NPC Crowds:
There's guys who are playing NPC and then heading off to the US or Japan - I expect many of them are fully pro.
Yes, more and more play in the MLR now than in local club rugby. Obviously, not SR money but it must be enough.
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@Kiwiwomble said in NPC Crowds:
@antipodean yeah, would take a a cultural shift for a lot of people for the default on a sat/sun afternoon to go down and watch the rugby...results secondary...just going is the thing
Mrs Womble has come to a few VFL games....couldn't care less about the result (have to reminder her who we're cheering for)....standing/sitting in the sun on the grass with a beer...or going to the pub for dinner then nipping round the corner to north port oval with mates....thats why she goes
harder to get that vibe with these large concrete stadiums
Yep and to change it you need afternoon games so not something for tv, will go that way in some part eventually. Not sure where in Aus you live mate, but also suggest it fairly hard to sit on the grass when it cold and wet. When I first went to Aus (Qld) mrs came to all club games of rugby, same reasons etc as your Mrs, and enjoyed it. Mind you that was all free and easy, certainly amateur (subbies) rugby etc.
I see someone suggested NPC will die as us old buggers do, up to a point that will happen to super etc too unless things get revamped., as less and less go to them .
I think you will find similar in almost all sport except very top level. Geez I have turned on tv to some games of baseball in USA and genuinely the crowds are not great.Just read a thing on the net yesterday, saying that in soccer in UK, the numbers attending the lower levels is dwindling. And even watching any sport on tv by 16-30yos has dropped by almost 47%, as they find other things to do
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Well when each team plays 162 games a season you're not selling them all out.
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@mariner4life Yep mate I understand that but seems they used to all draw huge crowds, as I said in bit I added, there a thing about soccer losing crowds in England etc below top level.
I was surprised that they get on average of about 6000 at Baseball games levl below MLB, just I imagined with their populatin and it a summer sport they would get more than that.
And things like Ice Hockey, although we tend to think they have massive crowds, they are indoors and averge crowd is about 17000, which is 95% capacity of their stadiums, so good crowds but seems mainly watched on tv. -
@Dan54 said in NPC Crowds:
@Kiwiwomble said in NPC Crowds:
@antipodean yeah, would take a a cultural shift for a lot of people for the default on a sat/sun afternoon to go down and watch the rugby...results secondary...just going is the thing
Mrs Womble has come to a few VFL games....couldn't care less about the result (have to reminder her who we're cheering for)....standing/sitting in the sun on the grass with a beer...or going to the pub for dinner then nipping round the corner to north port oval with mates....thats why she goes
harder to get that vibe with these large concrete stadiums
Yep and to change it you need afternoon games so not something for tv, will go that way in some part eventually. Not sure where in Aus you live mate, but also suggest it fairly hard to sit on the grass when it cold and wet. When I first went to Aus (Qld) mrs came to all club games of rugby, same reasons etc as your Mrs, and enjoyed it. Mind you that was all free and easy, certainly amateur (subbies) rugby etc.
I see someone suggested NPC will die as us old buggers do, up to a point that will happen to super etc too unless things get revamped., as less and less go to them .
I think you will find similar in almost all sport except very top level. Geez I have turned on tv to some games of baseball in USA and genuinely the crowds are not great.Just read a thing on the net yesterday, saying that in soccer in UK, the numbers attending the lower levels is dwindling. And even watching any sport on tv by 16-30yos has dropped by almost 47%, as they find other things to do
of course crowds arn't going to be great if its wet but i feel if fine more often than its not and we just need to stop putting that stuff out there....it becomes self fore-filling, people think its going to be wet...so dont bother with things like seasons passes....then its sunny....and theyre "oh...could have gone....oh well, too late"
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@Nepia they probably arent fully pro in the way our super players are when you look at
the shape some come back in (even some that played the finals) it's more like a paid rugby camp...but that is probably reflective of the quality of the comp -
No ads like this anymore. If Ta$man get the shield, a similar vid could be made.
129K views · 1.9K reactions | How good was this TV advertisement for...
How good was this TV advertisement for the NPC back in the day 😍
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@taniwharugby said in NPC Crowds:
@Nepia they probably arent fully pro in the way our super players are when you look at
the shape some come back in (even some that played the finals) it's more like a paid rugby camp...but that is probably reflective of the quality of the compOurs tend to come back in decent shape ...
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@Kiwiwomble said in NPC Crowds:
...and with a longer single season we could give both Dunedin and Invercargill games
But not too many. I enjoy sitting down in front of the telly to watch a game in Dunedin knowing it won't be spoilt by shitty weather.
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Been at NPC today, and as part of discussion on food and that I had a quick look at the prices at bar. Beer (craft cans) were $9-$12, those cans of whatever you call them,vodka abd whatever etc were $10.
Chips $5,05 and mince and cheese pies $6.50, All that I remember or notice think Burgers about $10-$12.
Also some food vans etc.
Didn't think it over the top really -
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@Dan54 said in NPC Crowds:
Been at NPC today, and as part of discussion on food and that I had a quick look at the prices at bar. Beer (craft cans) were $9-$12, those cans of whatever you call them,vodka abd whatever etc were $10.
Chips $5,05 and mince and cheese pies $6.50, All that I remember or notice think Burgers about $10-$12.
Also some food vans etc.
Didn't think it over the top reallyIncredibly cheap in comparison with what you'd pay in sports stadiums in Europe. You'd pay at least those prices in Pounds and Euros.
Obviously that's expensive in comparison with what you'd pay in the supermarket.
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@reprobate said in NPC Crowds:
A can of beer for $12 isn't over the top when Moa/Boundary Rd are $2 each at the supermarket?
Of course you don't compare to supermarkets . I don't know what you pay for craft beer, but certainly never seen them that price for craft beers here anywhere (mind you I never seen or heard those beers anyway) What I pointing out I think it reasonable comparing to when I go to restaraunts/pubs etc.
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@Crazy-Horse said in NPC Crowds:
@Kiwiwomble said in NPC Crowds:
...and with a longer single season we could give both Dunedin and Invercargill games
But not too many. I enjoy sitting down in front of the telly to watch a game in Dunedin knowing it won't be spoilt by shitty weather.
once again...i feel this stuff is what contributes to the idea of not going to watch rugby....people talk about the weather being shit....when i feel the reality is its fine more often than it now...cold maybe...not not raining more often than its raining
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@Dan54 said in NPC Crowds:
@reprobate said in NPC Crowds:
A can of beer for $12 isn't over the top when Moa/Boundary Rd are $2 each at the supermarket?
Of course you don't compare to supermarkets . I don't know what you pay for craft beer, but certainly never seen them that price for craft beers here anywhere (mind you I never seen or heard those beers anyway) What I pointing out I think it reasonable comparing to when I go to restaraunts/pubs etc.
It's not a restaurant just as much as it's not a supermarket.
Bring it fresh and cold to me in my seat in a nice glass and offer me another when I'm finished then maybe I'd get on board. -
The beers were almost certainly Shining Peak - rather a step up from Moa/Boundary-Rd... and typically ~$4-5 per can in supermarket when buying by the 6-pack. So yeah - pretty reasonable to be paying $9-12 from a sporting venue.
Better than paying $15 for a plastic cup of warm Tui. -
The standard of officiating won't be helping the cause. I watched 10 mins of the Wellington Vs Southland game last weekend and there was about 3 massive blunders in 10 mins. One of them a Southland player stood fully over the line and the AR missed it and let play carry on. That one especially was an absolute disgrace.
