Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@BerniesCorner but it is in the law book (as is being repeated often). Jordie ripped the ball (I think he moved towards the ball more in hope to try and hold it up as Bongi reached, but ripped is pushing it), and Bongi then landed on it.
For me, I think Bongi lost control and it was a fortuitous try. Tell me what the reaction would have been if that try went the other way 😂
The ball actually went backwards towards Bongi and hit Bongi in the face while he was or wasn't holding it after the JB contact.
I've done the forensic F5 and repeat on this.
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@BerniesCorner off the face isn’t a knock on, no?
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Biggest game for this year
Biggest game ever for Razor
Biggest game ever for Sititi
Biggest game ever for Ratima -
@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@BerniesCorner off the face isn’t a knock on, no?
What if Bongi is holding the ball at the time it goes forward off his face .
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@BerniesCorner knock on provided the ball travels forward out of his hand/grasp.
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Well the ball went forward off Bongi's face and almost certainly a part of the hand was touching the ball at the same time
It's confirmed ABs screwed over -
You confirming it!
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It should have been reviewed
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@BerniesCorner feel better. It wasn’t plain and obvious. So hard to overturn. Good chance Jordie knocked it on so you’d be facing a bok 5m scrum. And that’s before you get to the boks seeming to have penalty advantage and a likely yellow card for repeated maul penalties.
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You can't make the assumption JB knocked it forward. After contact Bongi's elbow flexes and Bong's hand with ball moves towards Bongi's face
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@BerniesCorner not making any assumptions. But in a very unclear situation that seems the most likely initial infraction.
Then in descending order with not much in any of them based on the available footage: Bongi knock on, Bongi drop straight down, Bongi no knock on off head.
But again, none of it’s clear or convincing, and anyway the try saved you from facing whatever was on the other side of the advantage Brace called before awarding the try.
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@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@BerniesCorner not making any assumptions. But in a very unclear situation that seems the most likely initial infraction.
Then in descending order with not much in any of them based on the available footage: Bongi knock on, Bongi drop straight down, Bongi no knock on off head.
But again, none of it’s clear or convincing, and anyway the try saved you from facing whatever was on the other side of the advantage Brace called before awarding the try.
To me the first and major point is why it was not reviewed by an unsighted ref and mute or blind assistants...
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@nostrildamus for sure. Also can’t understand why SFM wasn’t allowed a second conversion attempt with ABs and physios not retiring behind tryline and advancing before SFM addressed the ball.
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@African-Monkey said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@chchfanatic said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
1 Williams
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Barrett
5 Vaai
6 Sititi
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 Ratima
10 McKenzie
11 Telea
12 Barrett
13 Ioane
14 Reece
15 Jordan
16 Aumua
17 Ofa
18 Newell
19 Darry
20 Jacobsen
21 TJP
22 Barrett
23 ALBBlackadder injured?
Niggles in Africa. A classic. Up there with Niggles of the Camel Squadron.
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I hope Sititi crushes it but geez poor bloke thrown into the fire in an unfamiliar position.
@Bovidae can confirm, but I’m sure he’s never even played 6 at super level. He’s a 8 who can play 7, they cant plan to throw him in there like that.
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Sititi may have played 6 once subs came on but certainly never started there for the Chiefs IIRC. I'd say out of the three positions it is the one Sititi has the least experience in. Again, the loose forward mix is unbalanced when Savea is always at no.8.
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They could have played Cane at 6 and Ardie at 7 as Cane kind of is a 6.5 (and I think has been subbed on there) but that is 2 out of 3 changes so...
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@Landers92 said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Just been given the backline for this weekend below. Again, this contact hasn’t led me astray before so very reliable. Very very surprised by some choices and the amount of changes which makes you question the accuracy but fuck it, hasn’t been wrong yet so yeah sharing with the fern. Caleb Clarke is out injured.
- Ratima
- Dmac
- Telea
- J.Barrett
- Ioane/ALB(this isn’t yet decided)
- Reece
15. Jordan
That concerns me greatly for reasons discussed ad nauseum.
I still can't comprehend how the NZ SR team with the greatest representation in the starting XV came from the worst team and the SR Champions had the least.
