Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Nuggie was the best passing halfback I’ve seen , I know there have been other great halfbacks , better running games or kicking games perhaps.
But when it comes to distribution, he was the goat .
It would have been great to see what Dave Loveridge could do now if he was 40 years younger. His passing was outstanding too and he was class with ball in hand.
I was only young when I watched him, but Loveridge would probably be A Smith before A Smith. His pass was always spoken highly about
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The backline I am hoping to see for both tests is:
Ratima
DMac
Clarke
Jordie
Rieko
Jordan
BeaudenTJP
ALB
ReeceTJP as insurance if Ratima is battling but I think we need Ratima starting to help counter the rush a bit.
Clarke and Jordan are two of the most lethal wingers in world rugby right now, and with Rieko attracting defenders inside them that frees them up a bit more.
Reece would be a bit of a nightmare to defend against coming on fresh with 20 to go.
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@No-Quarter Like that backline mate, though at this early stage I suspect TJ will start at 9 and leave Ratima for against hopefully tiring team, where perhaps his speed of break may come into play. But genuinely comfortable with whoever starts.
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@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@No-Quarter Like that backline mate, though at this early stage I suspect TJ will start at 9 and leave Ratima for against hopefully tiring team, where perhaps his speed of break may come into play. But genuinely comfortable with whoever starts.
None of these young guys have played in the Republic. It might be a shock to the system
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@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Big loss but with Mighty Williams and Ofa T, the All Blacks have two very solid LHP. Bower, who cannot break into Otago's starting XV this year, will probably hold the bags.
Ofa to start, and Tamaiti to rampage once Boks fatties replaced. Bower is back up, but ought to fit in seamlessly if there's a mishap.
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I thought Ofa would be better off the bench as his best years are behind him no?
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Big loss but with Mighty Williams and Ofa T, the All Blacks have two very solid LHP. Bower, who cannot break into Otago's starting XV this year, will probably hold the bags.
Ofa to start, and Tamaiti to rampage once Boks fatties replaced. Bower is back up, but ought to fit in seamlessly if there's a mishap.
And replaced by more fatties….
Ofa has been used as a finisher in the two England and two Argie tests. Part of that I think has been balancing the experience but also that the blueprint for the props for the future was largely set in the finals of last years RWC.
EdG and Lomax starting with Williams and Newell off the bench. Introduce others as they have done for new blood and keep experience (Ofa) as required. Williams had the family leave earlier so I think that has played a part in Ofa being used off the bench this year.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Big loss but with Mighty Williams and Ofa T, the All Blacks have two very solid LHP. Bower, who cannot break into Otago's starting XV this year, will probably hold the bags.
Ofa to start, and Tamaiti to rampage once Boks fatties replaced. Bower is back up, but ought to fit in seamlessly if there's a mishap.
And replaced by more fatties….
Ofa has been used as a finisher in the two England and two Argie tests. Part of that I think has been balancing the experience but also that the blueprint for the props for the future was largely set in the finals of last years RWC.
EdG and Lomax starting with Williams and Newell off the bench. Introduce others as they have done for new blood and keep experience (Ofa) as required. Williams had the family leave earlier so I think that has played a part in Ofa being used off the bench this year.
Agree with the thrust, but EDG’s absence throws things. The first 40 will have a heavy scrummaging focus, which is why I’d prefer Ofa’s experience.
BTW expect no more than two Boks backs on bench.
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Intrigued by this game. If we hadn't won well against Argentina, it'd be backs against the wall and I'd give us the win. Now I'm not so sure.
It's all about composure for me. If they keep their heads (particularly the forwards), the new guys continue their development and the 6/7/8 combo continues on from last week I'll be more than happy. A win would be the icing on the cake though...
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Looking forward to this one. Excluding the WC, biggest game in years.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Intrigued by this game. If we hadn't won well against Argentina, it'd be backs against the wall and I'd give us the win. Now I'm not so sure.
It's all about composure for me. If they keep their heads (particularly the forwards), the new guys continue their development and the 6/7/8 combo continues on from last week I'll be more than happy. A win would be the icing on the cake though...
Similar feeling to 2022. No one gave us a chance. And they were right. We sucked. And sucked bad. We sucked so bad that loss in Mbombela didn't even hurt. But the interesting thing about that test was that SA dominated so violently yet their two main scores came from ABs mistakes and the scores should really have been a whole lot closer.
No one is really giving us a chance again in test 1, the expectation is that we will lose. I expect us too as well but I wouldn't be surprised if we got up for this.
