Crusaders 2025
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@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris Yeah don’t get me wrong, Penny shouldn’t be there. I just don’t think Mainsbridge should shoulder the full blame. A lot more to it.
No not just Mainsbridge but he runs the ship he has to take some heat for decisions.
You protecting your clubman there ?.Who would you have coaching the Crusaders over Penney?
I would rather they bite the bullet and give it to Tamati Ellison, if we are going to take some pain develop a young coach.
I wonder if the Crusaders had this in mind and were ready to do this but then the gig he landed with the All Blacks came along and threw that whole plan off…
Still possible Tamiti is only involved for Home test weeks.
He will not travel to SA,Australia or the end of year tour.Really? If true that is disappointing to hear. I think Taimati has more potential as a coach than Rangi and Holland who've had very limited success as coaches despite having over a decade of coaching experience.
Ellison has already won 4 titles, 1 as Wellington defense coach, 3 as Crusaders defense coach. I would rather see him full-time in the All Black's environment to support Rangi and Holland, is Razor really only taking 4 assistant coaches overseas @Chris?
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@darylmitchell said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris said in Crusaders 2025:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2025:
@Chris Yeah don’t get me wrong, Penny shouldn’t be there. I just don’t think Mainsbridge should shoulder the full blame. A lot more to it.
No not just Mainsbridge but he runs the ship he has to take some heat for decisions.
You protecting your clubman there ?.Who would you have coaching the Crusaders over Penney?
I would rather they bite the bullet and give it to Tamati Ellison, if we are going to take some pain develop a young coach.
I wonder if the Crusaders had this in mind and were ready to do this but then the gig he landed with the All Blacks came along and threw that whole plan off…
Still possible Tamiti is only involved for Home test weeks.
He will not travel to SA,Australia or the end of year tour.Really? If true that is disappointing to hear. I think Taimati has more potential as a coach than Rangi and Holland who've had very little success as coaches despite having over a decade of coaching experience.
Ellison has already won 4 titles, 1 as Wellington defense coach, 3 as Crusaders defense coach. I would rather see him full-time in the All Black's environment to support Rangi and Holland, is Razor really only taking 4 assistant coaches overseas @Chris?
Yes Taimati only involved for home tests on a part time capacity.
From the article below
Tamati Ellison, who has been a member of the Crusaders coaching group for the last two years, will also work part-time as a contact skills coach.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350308970/all-blacks-add-corey-flynn-and-david-hill-coaching-staff -
Confirmation of Penney keeping his job & comments from Mansbridge etc
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Hey Mansbridge, nobody is asking you to kill the golden goose or blow up the academy, people were wanting a change in coach. Sure there were some close losses and there were injuries, but the team was dysfunctional, and that is on the coaches. Given the lack of past success for Penny, it's hard to see things being different next season.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders 2025:
Hey Mansbridge, nobody is asking you to kill the golden goose or blow up the academy, people were wanting a change in coach. Sure there were some close losses and there were injuries, but the team was dysfunctional, and that is on the coaches. Given the lack of past success for Penny, it's hard to see things being different next season.
yeah 100% stupid remarks by Mansbridge an over reaction,sacking the coach sure as hell will not kill the golden goose, or blow up the Academy FFS.
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The Academy is cooked anyway. The money they spend on that and the players that actually come thru don’t compare. I’d love a breakdown of players that have been there since 2017 and see who’s actually played super rugby or NPC.
I know from our club we’ve had 2 in past 4 years who haven’t kicked on. -
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@tubbyj said in Crusaders 2025:
Crusaders are crazy if they do not sign Lincoln McClutchie for next season. The guy is a strong performer for Hawkes Bay in the NPC while Taha Kemara can't even crack the Waikato starting lineup FFS.
McClutchie isn’t exactly a strong performer. He’s serviceable at best at NPC level.
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@tubbyj said in Crusaders 2025:
I can only assume the reason he is being snubbed by everyone in NZ rugby bar HB has to do with the reason HB comes up as Hawkes Bay when you write it on this forum.
I can't think of any other reason. The fern is strong.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2025:
@tubbyj said in Crusaders 2025:
Crusaders are crazy if they do not sign Lincoln McClutchie for next season. The guy is a strong performer for Hawkes Bay in the NPC while Taha Kemara can't even crack the Waikato starting lineup FFS.
McClutchie isn’t exactly a strong performer. He’s serviceable at best at NPC level.
I tell ya if @Stargazer was still around.....
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@African-Monkey said in Crusaders 2025:
@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2025:
@tubbyj said in Crusaders 2025:
Crusaders are crazy if they do not sign Lincoln McClutchie for next season. The guy is a strong performer for Hawkes Bay in the NPC while Taha Kemara can't even crack the Waikato starting lineup FFS.
McClutchie isn’t exactly a strong performer. He’s serviceable at best at NPC level.
I tell ya if @Stargazer was still around.....
If he was I would argue my point all the same. I kind of miss @Stargazer, I wonder where that fella got to.
