All Blacks vs Pumas I

Frank

Is Naholo gone for the entire Rugby Champioship?
 
What about Moala?

Tim

I think Moala's prognosis was "a few weeks".

hydro11

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The Pumas look to be a stronger side than the Wallabies this year, so Hansen will look to put out a stronger 23 than that which faced Australia
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I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.

African Monkey

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I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.
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Yes everyone ususally expects the Argies to get up over Aussie but most of the time Australia give them some thrashings.

sparky

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starting line-up was probably as good as we could field given the injuries we have, so not sure it will get much stronger.</blockquote> 
I expect Ryan Crotty, Cody Taylor and Patrick T to be back in the 23 for Argentina, perhaps Moala. All of them will strengthen the squad against Argentina's ball carriers.

kiwiinmelb

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I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.
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That will be interesting to see how the Pumas go against Australia , 
 
For whatever reason they seem to enjoy playing the Boks , and hold no fears against them , 
 
Bringing the Pumas into this comp could turn out to be a real pain in the butt for the Boks

KiwiMurph

There was an article about Moala stating the plan is perhaps to have him ready Sept 17 v Boks in Chch at best. Dont think he is a chance for Argie in Hamilton - he was walking very gingerly on the field after the Bleds on Sat

Bovidae

I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.

MN5

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I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.
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If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?

rotated

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If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?
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Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?

Nepia

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Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?
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ALB replaced SBW first and then Tamanivalu came in for Moala.

ACT Crusader

I actually think there will be a few changes. Have nothing to base it on, but I get the feeling that the away tests will be really targeted, so will want our strongest 23 available.
 
I would not be surprised to see Tuipoluto and Romano starting together with one of Retallick/Whitelock on the bench.
 
There aren't many options in the back 3 unless they give Cruden/Sopoaga a run at 10 and Barrett is in the mix for a back 3 spot to give Dagg or Bender a spell. 
 
Crotty/ALB plus Fekitoa.
 
I think Read and Cane will start every test. Dixon or "Swuire" to start.
 
Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench
 
Taylor to start and Coles on the bench.

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="610542" data-time="1472455085">And why not Crotty + ALB in midfield ?</blockquote>
 
I can't see them dropping Fekitoa. I think as long as he's fit they will give him as much opportunity to develop. They will want him to grow in confidence and keep improving.

Billy Tell

Crotty + ALB = too similar imo. It's one or the other at 12 with Fekitoa, or Moala (if fit) or if needed Tamanivulu at 13.

BartMan

Pukunui I agree. No reaction from the Aussie lock. I was gouged once and you come up swinging and biting and throwing anything and everything. Lack of reaction alone tells you no gouge.

Chris B.

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Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench
 
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Winding back the clock, eh? :)

pukunui

You would think if they are going to do any sort of rotation this would be the game to do it.
I doubt they will want to mess with the team too much and really can't afford to in the backs with all the injuries.
 
I would think (and Im sure Hansen will be on board) the following:
- If Crotty is fit he will come back in and pair with Fekitoa to keep developing that combo. ALB to bench.
- If Taylor is fit he will go to the bench with Coles starting 
- Maybe one player rotated from the loosies. Either Savea starting/Cane Bench or Squire/Dixon starting with Kaino rested.
- Pat T to the bench in place of the second loosie (see above point). or Possibly to start for one of BBBR/Sam
 
The rest i see staying the same until Moala/Naholo come back.

Bovidae

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Winding back the clock, eh? :)
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I'm sure we can drag Woody off the farm.

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610827" data-time="1472552393">Winding back the clock, eh? :)</blockquote>
 
I was wondering if someone would pick that up

RoninWC

Why all this hypothesizing about lineups for the next game when we can just ask jegga to get the inside word when he next has breakfast with him Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Marty MacKenzie and Joe Moody?
 
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The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Pumas I