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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Almost overlooked; Wagner 5/86 at an economy rate of 2.20. The longer he's playing at the top level the more he's stepping up. The reverse of Southee...?

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="610322" data-time="1472422175">
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    <p>Surely this is Guptils last test match? He is a great ODI player etc but can't transfer that skillset to test match.  Let's start with someone new</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I personally reckon that depends a lot of Nichol, if he doesn't get runs then Guppy to five and a new opener ( don't know his name but has been mentioned a few times ) could be the go.</p>

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    <p>I hear ya Donsteppa. He's got an awesome attitude and a big engine. Great to see him getting opportunities on pitches with a bit of life rather than playing the 4th seamer on dirt roads.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    <p>The technology seems to pretty clearly indicate that ball nudged Latham's hip as it went through. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If you're the TV umpire, you've probably got to do four things all day - is it too much to expect that they should be done right?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Thanks Richard Illingworth!</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Paekakboyz" data-cid="610330" data-time="1472423770">
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    <p>I hear ya Donsteppa. He's got an awesome attitude and a big engine. Great to see him getting opportunities on pitches with a bit of life rather than playing the 4th seamer on dirt roads.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>There's a lot to like about the Wag. He must be fit as fucken anything to bowl as often and as well as he does.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="610328" data-time="1472423395">
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    <p>Almost overlooked; Wagner 5/86 at an economy rate of 2.20. The longer he's playing at the top level the more he's stepping up. The reverse of Southee...?</p>
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    <p>I think we could help ourselves by abandoning the myth that Southee is somehow our premier bowler and opens the bowling as of right and at his preferred end.</p>
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    <p>Interestingly, Wagner now has a fractionally better bowling average than Boult and a significantly better strike rate.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bracewell's figures indicate he's a struggler at test level.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610339" data-time="1472425456">
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    <p>I think we could help ourselves by abandoning the myth that Southee is somehow our premier bowler and opens the bowling as of right and at his preferred end.</p>
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    <p>Interestingly, Wagner now has a fractionally better bowling average than Boult and a significantly better strike rate.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bracewell's figures indicate he's a struggler at test level.</p>
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    <p>Yeah the six for that Bracewell got vs Oz ( what a great day to have had one of my very few sick days from work ! ) is a long time ago now. That and the enduring myth that he's a competent all rounder at test level.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>His other "Michelle" was a month before that but he's never taken more than three in an innings since.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610339" data-time="1472425456">
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    <p>I think we could help ourselves by abandoning the myth that Southee is somehow our premier bowler and opens the bowling as of right and at his preferred end.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Interestingly, Wagner now has a fractionally better bowling average than Boult and a significantly better strike rate.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bracewell's figures indicate he's a struggler at test level.</p>
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    <p>I think Southee is likely to be more effective with the new ball than Wagner. I also think Southee isn't an automatic pick anymore but the only alternative is probably Matt Henry.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="610368" data-time="1472430568">
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    <p>I think Southee is likely to be more effective with the new ball than Wagner. I also think Southee isn't an automatic pick anymore but the only alternative is probably Matt Henry.</p>
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    <p>Yeah - there's certainly little doubt that Wagner's likely to be better than Southee with an older ball. Our attack that was looking so promising 18 months or so ago looks a bit toothless right now - Wagner looking like the spearhead, when I'd pretty much consigned him to history with newer, faster, better guys coming through.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>A bit disappointing really.</p>

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    <p>As I said on paper man for man the boys match up to SA pretty damn well in terms of batting which wasn't the case until recently. ( Kallis retiring helps a lot )  </p>

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    <p>Fair play to Nicholls for sticking around for a bit. All on Williamson from here.</p>

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  • KiwiPieK Offline
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    <p>Kane and BJ will have to bat a long, long time here. At least they have done that before. This Rabada looks something special, first time I have seen him bowl for a whole spell. Up close to 150km/h and moving it about.</p>

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    <p>Watling out caught behind... </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Nicholls and Guptill must be drinking at the last chance saloon.</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>Santner doesn't last an over either. Time for Bracewell to prove me and others wrong and show he can handle a bat for a long time.</p>

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    <p>Good reviews by the South Africans not helping our cause.</p>

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    <p>Why oh why did we bowl first...</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>Never good when 31 is the teams third best score.....and number 10 gets it.....</p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    <p>and that 31 includes a big over of bat swinging!!</p>

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    <p>SA in the second innings are reeling with Southee and Boult the chief destroyers. Problem is the BCs were meek in the first innings. Barring a miracle the boys will be chasing over 400 in the last innings so any chance of a win is pretty much out of the question. Looks like the usual story, if Williamson and Taylor go cheaply she's all over, if one of them busts out a massive innings ( and you get the feeling Taylor used up all his form on Zimbabwe ) then there's the chance of an honourable draw.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I look at the "pace" attack ( should have a medium in front ) and there is enough talent there to knock SA over quite quickly tomorrow morning but I dread the thought of one of those lower order batsmen getting a frustrating half century and making it a real uphill battle.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="610640" data-time="1472503905">
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    <p>Why oh why did we bowl first...</p>
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    <p>Well days 2 and 3 should be the best for batting and we got rolled quickly.</p>

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