All Blacks vs England I
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Telea is a very useful player, he doesn't have the top end pace to score long range tries, but he's extremely dangerous when close to the line and causes defenses real headaches. I think we need Clarke on the left though, hopefully he gets picked when fit again, he's a special player and his power gives us a point of difference in the back three.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Daffy-Jaffy didn't feel like he gained a lot of ground when doing so, would be interesting to see that stat.
Last season he was on the end of few longer range opportunities that had him beating multiple defenders in a single run, plus his closer in work. So not surprised by these stats.
What was surprising on Saturday was that there were at least 2 or 3 opportunities where I thought we could’ve seen one of those runs, but it didn’t happen.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Daffy-Jaffy didn't feel like he gained a lot of ground when doing so, would be interesting to see that stat.
I think some of it is due to his workrate, he's not afraid of getting in close to the ruck and picking and going or having a one-off run where he beats a few defenders so gets a few "beaten defenders" that other outside backs who never get close to the ruck don't get.
I understand where you and others are coming form in that he does seem to beat a lot of defenders without gaining a great deal of meters. I would think that's mainly the "fault" for want of a better word of the AB attack pattern which can't seem to get the ball to him in space and he's continually weaving his way through traffic.
So instead of getting the ball in space and weaving his way past wingers and fullbacks he's basically side-stepping the incoming cover defence, which then leads him back inside into even more cover defence so beating a couple of defenders doesn't gain you much. And that's not his fault and he does really well in the limited space he has, I'd just love to see him get a lot more space and time and have more 1:1 instead of 1:5 oppertunities.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Daffy-Jaffy didn't feel like he gained a lot of ground when doing so, would be interesting to see that stat.
I think some of it is due to his workrate, he's not afraid of getting in close to the ruck and picking and going or having a one-off run where he beats a few defenders so gets a few "beaten defenders" that other outside backs who never get close to the ruck don't get.
I understand where you and others are coming form in that he does seem to beat a lot of defenders without gaining a great deal of meters. I would think that's mainly the "fault" for want of a better word of the AB attack pattern which can't seem to get the ball to him in space and he's continually weaving his way through traffic.
So instead of getting the ball in space and weaving his way past wingers and fullbacks he's basically side-stepping the incoming cover defence, which then leads him back inside into even more cover defence so beating a couple of defenders doesn't gain you much. And that's not his fault and he does really well in the limited space he has, I'd just love to see him get a lot more space and time and have more 1:1 instead of 1:5 oppertunities.
He was put in to outside space in the First test but didn't have the pace to sustain the outside break so got run down pretty easily.
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:
Clarke getting involved in clase and simply using his power to go straight ahead should be just as effective as Telea's jinking in close.
Add to that, Clarke is quicker and better under the high ball.better balance with a Reece and Clarke combo for me.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks vs England I:
Both teams weren't great on defence, only 77% for NZ and 76% for England. I would hope that is about learning a new system.
After getting around to reading this thread this is the point I hadn't seen mentioned at all. Plenty on here criticised the AB defensive system under McLeod but I wasn't that impressed as the ABs still conceded easy metres to the opposition. There were some bad one-on-one misses.
Ellison has a lot to prove.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
Telea is a very useful player, he doesn't have the top end pace to score long range tries, but he's extremely dangerous when close to the line and causes defenses real headaches. I think we need Clarke on the left though, hopefully he gets picked when fit again, he's a special player and his power gives us a point of difference in the back three.
Is Caleb not available for selection?
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@darylmitchell good question, I haven't seen who is injured, I was wondering if Blackadder is also not fit yet.
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@No-Quarter you said he's not fit in your post, that's why I asked.
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@darylmitchell Ah, yeah, he wasn't available for selection for the first test as he was injured. I haven't heard anything more on that.
