Fix the Wallabies

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Worst thread ever....

mariner4life

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It WAS introduced years ago in one form, that admittedly wasn't well done. The Sydney clubs (and its own cost overruns) scuttled it. 
Now its back, despite the best efforts of the Sydney club competition, and will continue to fight like a little brother for prominence. 
sigh like mariner, the issue is that living among Queenslanders has given you a false sense of superiority. It comes down to the chromosomes or lack thereof. 
For the record: Queenslanders aren't Australians.</blockquote>
 
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NTA

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And yet, you're a Queenslander but NOT Australian.
 
So my theory holds water.
 
 
 
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Maybe they could try and poach more players while they develop a long term strategy to broaden their base and grow skills across the franchises?
 
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1) We already tried poaching players from league. It sort of worked, but didn't/
 
2) Long-term strategies aren't an option in a pit full of vipers carrying knives. Yes I know vipers don't have hands, but these ones are quite good at backstabbing.

pukunui

Having been at Highschool In Aust' during the late 90's - early 2000's when the Wallabies were last at the top and having to endure everything that went along withthat i don't care if they never win thr Bledisloe cup again. 
I think the recent discussions on how to fix them is a mix of things. A bit like the feeling a bully might get when they have left a nerd bloodied and broken on the ground, there isn't much point hurling more abuse, you just look like a dick then. But also a healthy dose of 'you guys are so shit and have no idea what you are doing, here are some tips that might make you less shit but we will still beat you.' I don't have an older brother but i would imagine there is plenty of patronising stuff like that while playing rugby/cricket in the backyard growing up. 
Having said that, here is my friendly advice. Which is Booboo mostly covered.

no more overseas players.
no more poopah
Drop moore
send a directive to the super teams to stop using a game plan that revolves around the rolling maul or scrumming for penalties.
work out a way to get the nrc on free to air tv. On one of the commercial channels, every game. Showing 1 game a week on foxtel isnt going to grow the game.
no more quade cooper
Give some young guys a go, they might actually use their lessons of defeat to improve in the future. The has beens in france aren't going to improve or learn. 
Oh and one more. Ditch Phil Kearns, his constant moaning can't be good for the growth of the game.

Rancid Schnitzel

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It WAS introduced years ago in one form, that admittedly wasn't well done. The Sydney clubs (and its own cost overruns) scuttled it. 
Now its back, despite the best efforts of the Sydney club competition, and will continue to fight like a little brother for prominence. 
sigh like mariner, the issue is that living among Queenslanders has given you a false sense of superiority. It comes down to the chromosomes or lack thereof. 
For the record: Queenslanders aren't Australians.</blockquote>
 
It was basically designed to fail wasn't it? Was halfarsed at any rate. 
Yes Nick, NSW is much better. That's why so many of you pricks are moving up here. Why would they do that Nick?

NTA

It wasn't designed to succeed.
 
 
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Yes Nick, NSW is much better. That's why so many of you pricks are moving up here. Why would they do that Nick?
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Because its cheap as fuck. And there are idiots who will sell their houses for not much before NSW people knock that shit down and turn them into McMansions.

Rancid Schnitzel

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It wasn't designed to succeed. 
Because its cheap as fuck. And there are idiots who will sell their houses for not much before NSW people knock that shit down and turn them into McMansions.</blockquote>
 
Well I guess it is cheap when you need 4 million bucks for half a shed and a hole for a shitter 50km outside of Sydney. What an awesome place.

NTA

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Well I guess it is cheap when you need 4 million bucks for half a shed and a hole for a shitter 50km outside of Sydney. What an awesome place.
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Fuck oath. Worth every cent for not having Victorians or Queenslanders.

Rancid Schnitzel

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Fuck oath. Worth every cent for not having Victorians or Queenslanders.</blockquote> 
Look, its bad enough you guys making your own place an overpriced cesspit, but you don't have to try to recreate that here. It's beyond weird that people would bag a place out...and then move there. Sydney could be cheap as, but farked if Id live there. Would rather nail my balls to a moving car.

Nepia

Can you Australians take your civil war to G&GR? ;)

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="610151" data-time="1472368303">It WAS introduced years ago in one form, that admittedly wasn't well done. The Sydney clubs (and its own cost overruns) scuttled it. 
Now its back, despite the best efforts of the Sydney club competition, and will continue to fight like a little brother for prominence.</blockquote>
 
The NRC is a much better product for the viewing public. The ARU has managed to piss away fortunes mismanaging rugby. The worst problem was a lack of fta coverage.

NTA

And will continue to be

NTA

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The NRC is a much better product for the viewing public. 
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Should add - it also alerts the club players to the fact their fitness is nowhere good enough to hang with the full professionals.

nostrildamus

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="610184" data-time="1472370709">Would rather nail my balls to a moving car.</blockquote>Sadly moving cars are quite difficult to find in Sydney traffic.

NTA

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Sadly moving cars are quite difficult to find in Sydney traffic.
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Hey! Take that over to the driverless cars thread!

rotated

Many successful teams have the saying "It is about getting the right people on the bus, the wrong people off the bus and getting people on the bus in the right positions". 
Australia do not own a bus at this point. 
So start there. Sack the entire coaching staff sans Byrne and scrum Doctor. Hire two to three guys with considerable head coaching experience who can work together and have shin a record of player development and start from there. It will be a long grind though. 
It's a pity too because they spent the best part of the summer telling us about their flash new bus that won Wheels Car of the Year award.

NTA

It will be a longer grind if we sack everyone. We did that not long ago. Doing it again won't really solve much except the question "do we have any coaches left?" to which the answer is "nup"

rotated

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It will be a longer grind if we sack everyone. We did that not long ago. Doing it again won't really solve much except the question "do we have any coaches left?" to which the answer is "nup"</blockquote>
 
But doc why would I get surgery for my ACL tear? I won't be able to play for a year? Better to just hobble around like this and never recover. 
It won't solve anything if you select a poor coach again - correct. You ran McKensie off who is the only Austrralian I'd be interested in having on a panel outside of Jones. 
So you would certainly be looking for overseas talent there.

NTA

Link pretty much ran himself off. There was a lot of shit going on in the background, particularly with regards to the staffer he was "allegedly" involved with. His man-management skills were also talked about with little praise in dark corridors, and not just in NSW.
 
I realise you don't rate Cheika, so now if we're talking overseas coaches - what's your plan?

canefan

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Link pretty much ran himself off. There was a lot of shit going on in the background, particularly with regards to the staffer he was "allegedly" involved with. His man-management skills were also talked about with little praise in dark corridors, and not just in NSW.
 
I realise you don't rate Cheika, so now if we're talking overseas coaches - what's your plan?
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I haven't been following Oz rugby closely for a while but do you reckon this really is the best team you've got? Are the Super players so bad that Cheika has no choice but to get these mercs back using the Giteau rule? If the cupboard is bare then the ARU have to take a long look at themselves and fix things from the lower levels up. They could start by not spending shitloads on league converts and using the money to develop youth

The Silver Fern

Fix the Wallabies