All Blacks vs England I
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@nostrildamus time will tell if he’s the Messiah
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@mariner4life The performances of 1 through 9, and the structures were more important, but he spent most of the game putting in mediocre kicks or delivering passes to players under pressure. It was not a very good performance. Which made him no different to most of the players, but under pressure he wasn't putting us in good field position.
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Riiiiight
Tell me again about how Dalton is a genuine 7
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There are no genuine sevens now. Who plays one? Everyone is a hybrid now. What do you want, a "link player" from 2008?
Opensides tackle and hit rucks. Jackling is great, and ball carrying is a bonus. A good game plan connects them with their carriers, and positions them to have the most impact on defence.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:
BTW, who is faster than Papalii? Maybe Savea? That's it in NZ.
Everyone. I watched Ioane burn him. He's slow and no ruck threat
Savea isn't a ruck guy any more
Finau didn't do much tonight and isn't a ruck guyWe've abandoned the "fetcher" and we don't hit rucks to turn over. England kept the ball as long as they wanted.
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You Blues guys are worse than the Cantabs as homer's.
I'll chuck you a bone, Stevie P was good, and his replacement was fucking awful
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:
Everyone
Sure. The stats will come out and he will have made the most tackles and hit the most rucks of the loose forwards.
All the loose forwards would have benefited from solid ball carrying to set a platform, and continued phases to build pressure. It didn't happen, and the team looked like bit part players.
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Turnover stats say what?
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@mariner4life 41 - 10 really hurt, eh.
Must've been the two Blues in the starting pack that did it. Not the coaches or the six who got dominated at Super Rugby level.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:
It's not Foster v Razor
It's DMac has a better passing game than BB and Mo'unga and thus we unlocked it
I'm still astounded that he's copping shit playing 10 outside a beaten pack and rubbish halfbacks.the boy is a wizard
Truth lies somewhere in the middle. There was definitely space created and you can see the opportunities he presents.
But he also overplayed his hand a bit much and a lot of his kicking was average.
It would be nice to see him paired with Ratima.
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@mariner4life Hard to get turnovers without someone hitting defensive rucks to put pressure on, like the last one. We also got a turnover when Papalii tackled Earls off the scrum and brought him down quick.
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I don't care about super rugby it's rubbish.
I care about good loose forward play. Dalton is a short 6. Ardie is a floating something.
We need to focus on generating turnover ball, but somehow we still pick these guys who just don't
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@mariner4life Who would you pick? Sotutu and Jacobson were high up in turnover stats.
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Harmon
And Sotutu.
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:
Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.
Newell was excellent off the bench.
Williams and Bell trained the house down during the week too. And did you hear how well Havili was holding those tackle bags. Mo’unga was the pick of the ex players in the crowd too.
Carrying this team….
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But I get that the AB coaches see it differently, because this is now two who.pick the exact same.
But again I watched a team keep the ball as long as they wanted
