Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.

Samurai Jack

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Talk that Franks might be in a bit of strife for his work on Douglas' head in a maul. Poite saw it at the time and told Franks to get off the head. Which he did eventually but probably couldn't hear at the time.
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There was no reaction at all from recipient at the time. I think I would like to hear from the Aussie player before making a judgement.

NTA

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There was no reaction at all from recipient at the time. I think I would like to hear from the Aussie player before making a judgement.
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Yeah both of them looked like they were a bit busy trying to do their thing. Doubt whether its a deliberate eye gouge, so throw it into the judiciary lottery and spin the wheel!

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="609832" data-time="1472295452">It doesn't help that they've got genuine injury issues in their backline. At no point this year have I felt the selectors have put out their best backline. 
Tonight I felt they competed much better and could have had a score or two with better players. Certainly a better effort from last week. 
Two weeks in a row the All Blacks have looked seriously disjointed with the bench coming on.</blockquote>
 
Do the Aussie selectors know what their best backline is, even when everyone is fit? 
If Mitchell were fit would he be starting ahead of DHP? Toomua or Giteau? Kurindrani was fit but yet lost his spot to a rookie. If Foley is the answer at 10 then surely he should have stayed there and gone with Kerevi (who played 12 vs England) and TK and had Cooper off the bench. Genia has looked okay, but Phipps has been the preferred man playing almost 80 in previous tests.

Frank

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Poite is just a random ref and I tend to think his random decisions balance out in the end.
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Random really means he has no idea.

cgrant

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I expect a few changes and some key players to be rested for the SA test the following week. Cruden/Sopoaga at 1st 5, Dixon for Kaino, Pat T/Romano to be in the 23. 
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To rest Barrett ? The fellow doesn't look tired at all. He doesn't even sweat nor look short of breath after a run.

LagerLout

Ref was baffling today, well pretty on form for Poite generally. I hate watching games he and Barnes ref. Both lapse between good and just hopeless. If only we could clone Owens and bin the rest of them!
 
The Wallabies are just awful at the moment. Set piece horrendous. Kicking game very poor. Defensive alignment is poor & slow, and what's with the silly niggle (which we seem to be wading into too). Cheika started this he needs to stop it and get them focussing on Rugby. Reminds me of 97 bringing in Michael Brial for a bit of mongrel, it didn't work then, won't work now. It's not 1956. 
 
Team just looks lost, I'd start by dropping Moore, he's out of form and hardly leading by example. Pocock to get a run again IMO. Hooper doesn't look in top form either. 
 
As for the AB's. Don't believe the hype. We're playing well, but if we come up against a more structured team things will be a lot more difficult. The Wallabies had no ball, couldn't win a set piece, and made mistakes. Sure we look good, but I don't think we can measure ourselves just yet until we get tested a lot harder. 
 
Amazing to win 42 on the trot at home though, incredible statistic.

DMX

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="609875" data-time="1472301735">To rest Barrett ? The fellow doesn't look tired at all. He doesn't even sweat nor look short of breath after a run.</blockquote>
 
That's what makes impact subs difficult, Barret, And Smiths can literally play a full 80mins at such a high standard, I think only Tamanivalu added impact in the backs. I can also see the reluctance with Tuipalotu on the bench given our locks can easily put in 80 minute shifts.

DMX

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="LagerLout" data-cid="609876" data-time="1472301767">Ref was baffling today, well pretty on form for Poite generally. I hate watching games he and Barnes ref. Both lapse between good and just hopeless. If only we could clone Owens and bin the rest of them! 
 
The Wallabies are just awful at the moment. Set piece horrendous. Kicking game very poor. Defensive alignment is poor & slow, and what's with the silly niggle (which we seem to be wading into too). Cheika started this he needs to stop it and get them focussing on Rugby. Reminds me of 97 bringing in Michael Brial for a bit of mongrel, it didn't work then, won't work now. It's not 1956. 
 
Team just looks lost, I'd start by dropping Moore, he's out of form and hardly leading by example. Pocock to get a run again IMO. Hoopah doesn't look in top form either. 
 
As for the AB's. Don't believe the hype. We're playing well, but if we come up against a more structured team things will be a lot more difficult. The Wallabies had no ball, couldn't win a set piece, and made mistakes. Sure we look good, but I don't think we can measure ourselves just yet until we get tested a lot harder. 
 
Amazing to win 42 on the trot at home though, incredible statistic. </blockquote>
 
Scary thing with the ABs is I thought they did not capitalize on opportunities with usual ruthlessness, if they did we would have been looking at 50 points.

nostrildamus

Not sure if Cruden is impact sub as much as 10 insurance. PS even if he didn't play as well as last week it is a real delight to watch BB learning how to gel his considerable skills together.

sparky

Sir Ted speaking before the game about the woeful Wallabies: 
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booboo

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Haven't read over the thread yet but man Phil Kearns is a whiny bitch. You'd think Fox would ask him to tone it down because he makes Tony Johnson seem balanced for Crusaders/ Ta$man games (and Smithy for Magpies games). 
You know what I'm actually glad when he cries like a little girl, because when he's like that I know we're kicking their ass.</blockquote>
 
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Have decided that Kearns's whinging is a delight. The more he's whinging the better we're playing.</blockquote>

NTA

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Samurai Jack" data-cid="609866" data-time="1472299821">There was no reaction at all from recipient at the time. I think I would like to hear from the Aussie player before making a judgement.</blockquote>
Still, this isn't a good look with the left hand <a class="bbc_url" href="

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Now, Douglas doesn't react. But that doesn't excuse the actions of Franks. Another angle might help h him. 
If the situations were reversed, no doubt some on here would be talking about what a tough nugget the AB player was, to carry on in spite of the dirty eye gouging convict.

African Monkey

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Still, this isn't a good look with the left hand <a class="bbc_url" href="

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Now, Douglas doesn't react. But that doesn't excuse the actions of Franks. Another angle might help h him. 
If the situations were reversed, no doubt some on here would be talking about what a tough nugget the AB player was, to carry on in spite of the dirty eye gouging convict. ;)
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Yep, no excuse for that. Definite suspension for that.

jegga

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Still, this isn't a good look with the left hand <a class="bbc_url" href="

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Now, Douglas doesn't react. But that doesn't excuse the actions of Franks. Another angle might help h him. 
If the situations were reversed, no doubt some on here would be talking about what a tough nugget the AB player was, to carry on in spite of the dirty eye gouging convict. ;)
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Look at the tweets below it, what a bunch of sad whining fluffybunnies. I had no idea Kearns family was so big.

taniwharugby

Frank's doesn't have history as a dirty player though, silly or stupid at times yes....guess that's about all he has going for him cos that looks grubby as fuck!

jegga

Just having a read of the match thread at g and g 
 
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Bovidae

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To rest Barrett ? The fellow doesn't look tired at all. He doesn't even sweat nor look short of breath after a run.
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I just think if Hansen is going to make some changes the Argie test will be the game to do that. I have no problem if he keeps the same starting XV but the risk is some players won't have played for a month if required later in the 4N. He would be best to release some players to play in the NPC but I doubt he will do that.

Bovidae

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Now, Douglas doesn't react. But that doesn't excuse the actions of Franks. Another angle might help h him. 
If the situations were reversed, no doubt some on here would be talking about what a tough nugget the AB player was, to carry on in spite of the dirty eye gouging convict. ;)
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Speaking of Douglas, I was surprised more wasn't said post-match about his action on Read, when Read was yellow-carded for collapsing the maul at 74 mins last week. At best it was a clumsy clean-out and a penalty, at worst a flying heatbutt and citing.
 
I expect Franks will have some time off himself.

NTA

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="609938" data-time="1472332858">Speaking of Douglas, I was surprised more wasn't said post-match about his action on Read, when Read was yellow-carded for collapsing the maul at 74 mins. At best it was a clumsy clean-out and a penalty, at worst a flying heatbutt and citing. 
I expect Franks will have some time off himself.</blockquote>
 
There were a few ruck clean outs that were definitely not "plane taking off" but "plane landing". In a couple of cases it was " plane smashes into tarmac" 
Also, remember the neck roll thing from RWC2015? That seems to have fallen by the wayside a little in the games I've seen this year. 
That's the problem with adding things to the refs list - other things get forgotten. 
Though Poite at least did call "use it" at rucks. Mostly Australian ones as we dithered over the ball

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="609928" data-time="1472331713">Just having a read of the match thread at g and <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">The hardest part of the All Blacks current generation of dominance isn't that they dominate (they always do) but that they act like a sack of shit while they do it. Constantly offside, constant cynical fouls, blatant cheating for all but Poite. But its more than the cheating, its the attitude. Even the great McCaw, who lived on 1 Offside St, was a top bloke in every other respect. Dane Coles pretty much summed up the Kiwi attitude these days when he did his best to blind and choke Douglas. On top of that you booed the bloody kicker. You goddamn arrogant twats.</blockquote></blockquote>
 
Hahaha Oh wow. I guess every forum has someone like that. Or is Kearns posting there now?

The Silver Fern

Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.