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    Haha, the PR machine has kicked into gear overnight. Now it's all on a 'per game' basis, and apparently tackling too high can't be changed (but lineout throwing can be).

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I would have found a spot for Lakai, Sotutu, Plummer and Love

    Who for?

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I would have found a spot for Lakai, Sotutu, Plummer and Love

    Who for?

    I would have aswell! Perofeta,blackadder,beauden Barrett and Jacobson I would have left out

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    A good old fern meltdown,

    I picked a good time to wander back in 😀

    I suspect end of the day we will be judged on how we play, as per normal

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    @family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I would have found a spot for Lakai, Sotutu, Plummer and Love

    Who for?

    I would have aswell! Perofeta,blackadder,beauden Barrett and Jacobson I would have left out

    Thanks

    Wasn't missing the sentiment, but it was just half the story.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    A good old fern meltdown,

    shit, if we lose to a battle hardened England this will look like a gentle warming

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    It feels like I am reading an alternative Fern when I see people upset that RR was not selected. The same RR that has been ridiculed as an angry toddler and every rag doll moment of his gets pointed out? Up until this season of course.

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    @canefan

    Yeah agreed with that. Can’t see him getting much game time when those 3 are healthy

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    Yep, and I genuinely think one thing we tend to do is say players in certain positions should do certain things , and perhaps not accepting that the game and team needs to evolve, and players need different skills. Hells teeth we have got a couple of props that were loosies, in Tosi's case just a 3-4 years back. Goes against this idea that players can't learn new skills and adapt pretty quickly.
    I was surprised with Bell getting in, thought some of his lineout work was iffy, but don't know how much was his fault, or how much was jumpers, lifters etc. And if they see they can sort out what's wrong easily. I will say Crusaders lineout looked best when Barrett was playing, and he wasn't throwing.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It feels like I am reading an alternative Fern when I see people upset that RR was not selected. The same RR that has been ridiculed as an angry toddler and every rag doll moment of his gets pointed out? Up until this season of course.

    I think the annoyance is that Bell feels a bit like the teacher's pet. He hasn't had to work for his AB selection at all - but is auto-picked as the next hooker after the main 3 regardless of form.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

    Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

    Good call from more than 3 weeks ago.

    Hang it in the Louvre

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    @sparky

    This has never been an accusation about them before on this matter.

    I don’t believe you could work in NZ rugby if you had a race problem.

    Sotutu is a bit baffling but I do think it must be a relationship thing.

    I would love to see him back in the AB squad but after today it makes it a distant prospect

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    Sotutu's reaction to missing the squad last year I'm sure has done him no favours. If they already see him sitting behind Ardie, and see him as a specialist 8, maybe they have decided that he is not the man they want in the environment.

    I don't actually believe Razor and Jase Ryan think Sititi is a better player right now, this is clearly more nuanced than that.

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I would love to see him back in the AB squad but after today it makes it a distant prospect

    You can understand his perspective though. He's had a monster season, played every game (I think - maybe missed one), and been near the top offensively and defensively. Outplayed his opposite twice in big games.

    Then he misses selection and gets called mentally soft by the coaches. Frankly, I can understand if he goes overseas and takes the chance to play for England next year. I cannot see him staying after this - if this season doesn't get you inot the ABs, what would?

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    Sotutu will go down in my estimation if he does throw his toys out of the cot and plays for England. Cheapens international rugby too.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It feels like I am reading an alternative Fern when I see people upset that RR was not selected. The same RR that has been ridiculed as an angry toddler and every rag doll moment of his gets pointed out? Up until this season of course.

    I think the annoyance is that Bell feels a bit like the teacher's pet. He hasn't had to work for his AB selection at all - but is auto-picked as the next hooker after the main 3 regardless of form.

    Apart from Ricci (30 year old Ricci), who else was there? I'm no fan of Bell, but it seems like he gets time in the squad to hold tackle bags and be in the environment as a long term project. He won't see the field (maybe garbage time vs Fiji but probably not)

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    Not only have they only picked three locks, they've also picked three very short locks... doesn't suggest they think much of Darry.

    It is conceivable that in the selectors minds Lord and Holland are actually #2 and #3 in the pecking order I reckon.

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    If Brodie McAlister was fit, does Bell even make the Crusaders 23? He has certainly been fortunate due to injuries to other hookers.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Not only have they only picked three locks, they've also picked three very short locks... doesn't suggest they think much of Darry.

    It is conceivable that in the selectors minds Lord and Holland are actually #2 and #3 in the pecking order I reckon.

    After a great season, Darry is another one who got a raw deal. I think he at least earned a chance to show if he could make the step up

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It feels like I am reading an alternative Fern when I see people upset that RR was not selected. The same RR that has been ridiculed as an angry toddler and every rag doll moment of his gets pointed out? Up until this season of course.

    I think the annoyance is that Bell feels a bit like the teacher's pet. He hasn't had to work for his AB selection at all - but is auto-picked as the next hooker after the main 3 regardless of form.

    Apart from Ricci (30 year old Ricci), who else was there? I'm no fan of Bell, but it seems like he gets time in the squad to hold tackle bags and be in the environment as a long term project. He won't see the field (maybe garbage time vs Fiji but probably not)

    Yeah cos it's not like hookers get injured. Where is Samisoni again? Aumua played every game this season?

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