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Thanks everyone, and particularly @Kiwiwomble. Thought I should provide a post-post update (arf arf)
Made me stop and really look at what I needed this for. Consensus online was boom mic was far better at directed noise detection than the 'on ear' microphones. I had no idea there were 'Teams enabled' headphones.
Taken a punt with a Jabar Elvolve 40 - getting a second hand set from Trademe. If it doesn't work the way I want, so be it, will go get something shiny and new. Sounds like (haha) they are comfy, high quality and the 'puck' to control mute, connection, etc would be really good.
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thats what we're given at work, was good and only moved away after a couple of years when i wanted to go to a bud
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Thought I should drop in with an update after a couple of months
I wound up with a second hand pair of Jabra Evolve 40; wired boom mic headset. Very happy with them. The sound cancelling is very good - had an arborist outside my office window at home with a chainsaw and the people online heard nothing.
Works, don't have to charge them, good physical buttons to mash ... so far very happy with them.
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Thought this as good a thread as any. Recently, my Sony WH-1000XM3 as mentioned above, died.
For gaming over the past year, I've been using a set of "gaming" headphones from ASUS, ROG DELTA S.
When the Sony's died, I've been using the Delta's for work as well as gaming and boy, what a terrible experience when compared to the Sony's.
So I did some research and discovered IEM's or In Ear Monitors, effectively wired earbuds that are used by musicians, TV presenters, etc.
IEMs have come on in leaps and bounds over the past few years and I decided to get a pair to try and ultimately decided on some Truthear x Crinacle Zero IEMs.
Wow, IEMs are such a different and frankly much better experience. The fact that you no longer have something over the top of your head all day is great (especially when my hair is getting thinner these days), and the sound into your ears are very clean and clear.
After using them for a couple of weeks, I decided that EIMs will be my headphone of choice from now on and as it was my birthday over the Kings Birthday long weekend here in Aus, I decided to splurge on a better pair and so I went with the Linsoul Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite's.
Now I've gone from wow to WOW WOW! For work and for gaming, what a massive difference. The clarity, the sound stage, even the bass is such an improvement over any headphone I've previously tried.
The fit and comfort is amazing, even though they are in your ears, they don't get hot or uncomfortable in any way over long periods working, gaming or in bloody workshops.
So, if anyone is looking for a new/replacement headphone, I would definitely look at an IEM that's in your budget.
Cheers
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@Machpants said in Headphone recommendations?:
They're great for gaming too, but you do need a standalone mic
Great point @Machpants which I forgot to add which is a microphone. You're 100% correct that IEMs do not have microphones and so you need an additional mic if you game with friends or obviously for work.
I have a decent external mic already so that wasn't an issue for me, probably why I forgot to mention it.
Finally, for work they are great but it is gaming where they really shine.
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Couldn't tell if your account was hacked by an ad-bot... did a quick google on the concept... how the fuck is an "IEM" different from an in-ear ... earbud?
(More than normal interest, as I'm about to set up new working/'puzzling' environment... and was considering buying my first ever over-ear headset.
In the past - been happy with shitty $50 speakers... now I'm earning the greenback, gonna treat myself, innit luv?)
That's how to mix a metaphor -
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But.. as I'm about to go shopping...
I've never been a headset guy, but considering giving it a go...
Convince me - why bother? Why not just speakers?
Why not just let laptop speaker/microphone do the job...
...for work - it works. I've done years of 'zoom' calls without issue.
..Playing gamesSolving puzzles - I get the impression it might actually be useful? Been working my way through some Far Crygamespuzzles recently, and had the impression that if I'd been using a more advanced sound system I might have been more aware of which direction some of the ... action... was happening. Is that about it? -
@Kruse said in Headphone recommendations?:
Further basic research : "IEM" =definitely= "wank bullshit wired earphones"
Couldn't agree less frankly @Kruse
I'd suggest trying a pair first before commenting as I can honestly say, and definitely not being an ad-bot, that for me and my usage, being work with lots of Teams meetings and workshops as well plenty of hours of FPS gaming, IEMs are exactly what "I didn't know I needed until I started looking" when replacing my old Sony's.
To be frank, I wouldn't look at another over the ear/over the head headphone again after using these for the past couple of weeks. but that's just my personal opinion.
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@Kruse I went to an over-ear headphone with a boom mike. Outstanding for wearing for too long (shitty online meetings yo) and the boom mike is a game changer for not picking up anything but my talking.
As I said above, people were running a chainsaw outside my office window and it wasn't going through the mic.
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@RoninWC said in Headphone recommendations?:
@Kruse said in Headphone recommendations?:
Further basic research : "IEM" =definitely= "wank bullshit wired earphones"
Couldn't agree less frankly @Kruse
I'd suggest trying a pair first before commenting as I can honestly say, and definitely not being an ad-bot, that for me and my usage, being work with lots of Teams meetings and workshops as well plenty of hours of FPS gaming, IEMs are exactly what "I didn't know I needed until I started looking" when replacing my old Sony's.
To be frank, I wouldn't look at another over the ear/over the head headphone again after using these for the past couple of weeks. but that's just my personal opinion.
Whereas I rarely get my IEMs out cos I hate wires, even if they are better at gaming than my gaming headset
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@Kruse said in Headphone recommendations?:
But.. as I'm about to go shopping...
I've never been a headset guy, but considering giving it a go...
Convince me - why bother? Why not just speakers?
Why not just let laptop speaker/microphone do the job...
...for work - it works. I've done years of 'zoom' calls without issue.
..Playing gamesSolving puzzles - I get the impression it might actually be useful? Been working my way through some Far Crygamespuzzles recently, and had the impression that if I'd been using a more advanced sound system I might have been more aware of which direction some of the ... action... was happening. Is that about it?Why not speakers - First, I work at home almost 100% of the time and my wife is here 2/3 days a week also working from home and speakers would be annoying to the other person and as I'm in an apartment with others in nearby units also working from home, I don't want to annoy them either.
I've also found from past usage of speakers is that unless they are good to very good speakers, for gaming and especially First Person Shooters (FPS) where you need to be very aware of your surrounds including footsteps and gunfire or explosions indicating enemy nearby, they just don't have the clarity of sound or a decent sound stage.
I've been using both wired and wireless headphones for years and they've done me well including buying some higher end gear such as the Sony's and the ASUS ROGs and they've been good to very good for working/travelling and gaming.
But these Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite IEMs are just next level (okay yeah, I sound like a ad-bot), so bloody awesome for both work and for gaming and that comes from the absolute clarity of the sound and the extended sound stage. I can hear more details in game with these than I could with my "gaming" and friggin expensive ASUS ROGs.
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@Machpants said in Headphone recommendations?:
@RoninWC said in Headphone recommendations?:
@Kruse said in Headphone recommendations?:
Further basic research : "IEM" =definitely= "wank bullshit wired earphones"
Couldn't agree less frankly @Kruse
I'd suggest trying a pair first before commenting as I can honestly say, and definitely not being an ad-bot, that for me and my usage, being work with lots of Teams meetings and workshops as well plenty of hours of FPS gaming, IEMs are exactly what "I didn't know I needed until I started looking" when replacing my old Sony's.
To be frank, I wouldn't look at another over the ear/over the head headphone again after using these for the past couple of weeks. but that's just my personal opinion.
Whereas I rarely get my IEMs out cos I hate wires, even if they are better at gaming than my gaming headset
Yeah, the wires are annoying at first but I did buy a good quality 3.5mm male to female 1.5m extender cable which helps a lot as I'm not always tripping over them.
Also, using a $15 3.5mm to USB-C adapter from Apple, I can use them with my mobile phone.
Sure, in terms of getting up and walking around, the cable is annoying and you've got to remove them from your ears and place them on your desk/table, but I got used to that and consider it a small annoyance for the increased comfort and even better performance.
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@Machpants just using the onboard audio provided by my motherboard.
Considering a DAC but wanted to get used to the IEMs before committing any more money.
I've already upgraded the ear tips as the ones included weren't as good as I was hoping and didn't fit my ears well.
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@Kruse said in Headphone recommendations?:
But.. as I'm about to go shopping...
I've never been a headset guy, but considering giving it a go...
Convince me - why bother? Why not just speakers?
Why not just let laptop speaker/microphone do the job...
...for work - it works. I've done years of 'zoom' calls without issue.
..Playing gamesSolving puzzles - I get the impression it might actually be useful? Been working my way through some Far Crygamespuzzles recently, and had the impression that if I'd been using a more advanced sound system I might have been more aware of which direction some of the ... action... was happening. Is that about it?The bolded bit is where the increased sound stage provided by the IEMs will make a big difference.
The "sound stage" is the headphones ability produce sounds that allows you to perceive width and spaciousness.
When you combine the clarity and increased sound stage, you will hear more detail and direction with the sound.
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