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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2634

    that's a sensational story

    Tana didn't get picked for a semi because he had a go at the coach for fucking another staff member? A selection that was a big reason why we were bundled out? That's delicious!

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    #2635

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    for fucking another staff member

    ..and that staff member was Robbie Deans

    Joking obviously.. Anyway the affair rumour was everywhere around that time. Apparently the staff member had also slept with a senior player. Has it ever been repeated by a player or anyone close to the team? Doesn't the story seem a little too perfect? 'Tana stands up to the immoral coach' seems like Canes supporters fan fiction

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    #2636

    Realistically who is actually pushing Paps for the starting 7 jersey? And don't say fucking Blackadder. He makes the most sense to me for AB captain, the others just aren't captain material and can't manage the refs as well.

    I also don't want to burden SB with the captaincy. People give him shit for "stupid play" at times but we 100% need the mongrel he provides in the tight and I'd worry that giving him the captaincy would make him more refrained in that department which is the last thing we want - we need MORE physicality not less!

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #2637

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

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    #2638

    Is this the first Super season Grace got through without an injury break? It's a big improvement from him in that regard alone.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Chris
    #2639

    The interesting thing about Grace for me was he was either shit or really good he played his best when Blackadder played those 3 games.They seem to work well together along with Lillo-Willie as a trio.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

    A bit rough to blame Tana. Even Carlos didn't know where Carlos was going half the time...

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  • MN5M Online
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

    A bit rough to blame Tana. Even Carlos didn't know where Carlos was going half the time...

    Tana should have run into a less tough first five like Merhts.

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    SouthernMann
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    #2642

    Do we bring back the 'apprentice' role for Fabian Holland? Either for this part of the season, or when the NPC is over with the EoY tour.

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    replied to canefan on last edited by
    #2643

    @canefan Unfortunately, Mortlock had a fair idea! 🙂

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #2644

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

    A bit rough to blame Tana. Even Carlos didn't know where Carlos was going half the time...

    Tana should have run into a less tough first five like Merhts.

    If Mitch and Robbie had had a bit more vision they could have played Danny Boy at first five and Ma'a at second five - both in the squad and unused! 🙂

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    #2645

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

    A bit rough to blame Tana. Even Carlos didn't know where Carlos was going half the time...

    Tana should have run into a less tough first five like Merhts.

    If Mitch and Robbie had had a bit more vision they could have played Danny Boy at first five and Ma'a at second five - both in the squad and unused! 🙂

    I know they were both young at the time but to leave them out as well as Tana was just ridiculous.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #2646

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 Well Razor is from the mount so

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - lo oking forward:

    Mils at Centre?

    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

    Deans picked McDonald at centre for the 2003 semi final over a fully fit Umaga which lost us the game because Mortlock had rigorously targetted Leon's channel - the final nail in the coffin was the Spencer intercept happened because Leon was not in the right position to receive the pass because of his inexperience in the midfield, if Umaga had played 13 he would've picked Spencer's pass and scored under the posts.

    Mind you, it's a bit of a pity that Tana didn't use this superior positional awareness to not run into Carlos in the Italy game, which is how he hurt his leg in the first place! 🙂

    A bit rough to blame Tana. Even Carlos didn't know where Carlos was going half the time...

    Tana should have run into a less tough first five like Merhts.

    If Mitch and Robbie had had a bit more vision they could have played Danny Boy at first five and Ma'a at second five - both in the squad and unused! 🙂

    I know they were both young at the time but to leave them out as well as Tana was just ridiculous.

    To be fair, Ma'a didn't even make the RWC squad in 2007.

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    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #2647

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Realistically who is actually pushing Paps for the starting 7 jersey? And don't say fucking Blackadder. He makes the most sense to me for AB captain, the others just aren't captain material and can't manage the refs as well.

    I also don't want to burden SB with the captaincy. People give him shit for "stupid play" at times but we 100% need the mongrel he provides in the tight and I'd worry that giving him the captaincy would make him more refrained in that department which is the last thing we want - we need MORE physicality not less!

    Fucking Blackadder. If Ardie is at 8, you need a 6.5 at 7, don't you? This means Papalii, or Blackadder, (or even someone like Harmon). Papalii and Blackadder will be competing for the jersey. I think most pundits outside of this little internet echo chamber would agree. Papalii to start against the Poms with Blackadder (if fit...) on the bench seems the most likely scenario.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2648

    "if fit" is the key part there, he's barely been fit his entire career, I don't think his body can withstand test footy, especially the early exchanges. He would actually make a very effective bench option though given his high energy style of play.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2649

    Due the bloody rest policy we missed a chance to see Paps vs Blackadder 7 vs 7 a couple of weeks back.

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #2650

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Kirwan

    I'd just stop there.

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #2651

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    is Razor really going to pick a Blue as captain?

    Que?

    Don't get your logic. Won't pick Ble because not Sader but would pick Cane despite not Sader.

    Am hoping he's much more impartial and picks who he thinks is best.

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    replied to booboo on last edited by Canes4life
    #2652

    @booboo logic is Crusader coach will likely pick Crusader. Crusader coach more likely to pick HCane over Blue because HCane is best player in the world and has captained ABs before. Crusader unlikely to pick Blue because will be given shit by fellow Crusader peers for picking an inexperienced Blue over more experienced Crusader.

    In all seriousness Robertson might have Paps in his leadership team but he won't be captain. The odds would be through the roof if this was the opened up at the TAB.

    Unofficial TAB odds:
    Scott Barrett $1.80
    Ardie Savea $2.00
    Codie Taylor $8.00
    Dalton Papali'i $60.00

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    #2653

    ive just bookmarked my first post

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