Crusaders vs Blues
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I thought Strange had one of his better games for the Saders. Stood up in the lineouts - an area where they have obviously struggled this year, and also got a turnover or two. He still lacks the physical presence though.
And Hotham continued his good form. He might actually turn out to be a bloody good player.
Fihaki is also finally starting to look as though he may be Super level after all after a handy last few weeks. I was having doubts about him even at NPC level so it's good to see an improvement.
Unfortunately McLeod has reverted to type after going through a purple patch last year. How the hell was he an AB?
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@Canes4life I will bow to your logic if they meet again and the canes scrum wins, I don’t think it would. What gives the crusaders scrum the edge is that they have world class props on the bench, and still more in the sheds.
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@Crazy-Horse I think Hotham might just be an AB bolter
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@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders vs Blues:
Unfortunately McLeod has reverted to type after going through a purple patch last year. How the hell was he an AB?
Quite simply because Razor made some limited players look a whole lot better than reality - and then idiotic Foster fell victim into thinking these players were AB quality rather than recognising they were just system players with clearly defined roles and incredibly effective coaching under Razor. Foster was a useless selector.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders vs Blues:
I thought Strange had one of his better games for the Saders. Stood up in the lineouts - an area where they have obviously struggled this year, and also got a turnover or two. He still lacks the physical presence though.
And Hotham continued his good form. He might actually turn out to be a bloody good player.
Fihaki is also finally starting to look as though he may be Super level after all after a handy last few weeks. I was having doubts about him even at NPC level so it's good to see an improvement.
Unfortunately McLeod has reverted to type after going through a purple patch last year. How the hell was he an AB?
I think McLeod looked much better once he moved to the wing last year, and it was that versatility which got him to the ABs - he was surprisingly useful in the air and could cover a bunch of positions in the absence of Ennor.
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@Stag said in Crusaders vs Blues:
@Canes4life I will bow to your logic if they meet again and the canes scrum wins, I don’t think it would. What gives the crusaders scrum the edge is that they have world class props on the bench, and still more in the sheds.
No doubt the Saders have depth for the ages in that department but yeah I’d back our starting three to take it to them.
Still very tough for the Saders to get a playoff spot and I’ve got a feeling the Chiefs may rest most of their starting players for the Blues next week because they can’t really go up or down, so the Canes might not even end up playing the Saders. Who bloody knows at this point. Crazy season it’s been.
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And this is why we need to minimise the Blues influence in the ABs
They are inherent losers. It doesn't matter how much talent they have, they will find a way to choke.
The place is cursed
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@mariner4life Brother chill, the game was virtually a dead rubber.
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@mariner4life said in Crusaders vs Blues:
They are inherent losers. It doesn't matter how much talent they have, they will find a way to choke.
Haha, 10 changes to the Blues starting line-up from last weekend, and they only lost by 2 points bro. wasn't the capitulation of last year eh..
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@mariner4life said in Crusaders vs Blues:
And this is why we need to minimise the Blues influence in the ABs
They are inherent losers. It doesn't matter how much talent they have, they will find a way to choke.
The place is cursed
Agreed. It’s not even a talent thing, it’s purely ego and arrogance for me. Fuck them all off I say.
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They haven't won in 21 fucking years.
I give the Waratahs shit, but seriously, thr Blues are worse because they are not Australian and therefore good at rugby.
All the players. All.the resources. Can. Not. Win.
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@mariner4life try being a Blues fan.
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This year hasn't been that great to be a Crusaders fans sure we may have been spoilt with 7 consecutive titles and another 7, to have a turd of a season like this year is not in our dna. Don't begrudge us this win our backs are still against the wall. Blues are having an awesome season and we were lucky to finally get a win.
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@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Blues:
@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders vs Blues:
Unfortunately McLeod has reverted to type after going through a purple patch last year. How the hell was he an AB?
Quite simply because Razor made some limited players look a whole lot better than reality - and then idiotic Foster fell victim into thinking these players were AB quality rather than recognising they were just system players with clearly defined roles and incredibly effective coaching under Razor. Foster was a useless selector.
You are aware the All Blacks have selectors right and it isn’t all down to Fozzie right? There are multiple people involved in deciding on the selected All Black squads.
You’re better off just saying you don’t like Fozzie mate.
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Question now is, would the Crusaders rather the Highlanders lose tomorrow with hopes they lose again to the Canes next week and don’t grab any bonus points. Or, the Drua lose tomorrow and hope that the Drua lose to the Rebels at home in Fiji next week… Assuming either of those happen and the Crusaders win next week against Moana with a Bonus point they are in the playoffs.
If the Highlanders win tomorrow, the Crusaders need a huge favor from the Rebels next weekend in Fiji. Still plenty of moving yet I think because if the Highlanders manage a win tomorrow they could jump up to 6th, and if they Rebels lose next weekend they might just finish the round robin there. Still plenty to play for!
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@antipodean said in Crusaders vs Blues:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders vs Blues:
Well I think you have to be a bit pleased for Crusaders win for their supporters'
And I mean the ones that go to game, they have had good crowds all yearm and that's what proper supporters do, go and cheer support their team by being there regardless of how teams results are.I care for them as much as I care for Brumbies supporters, which is to say not at all.
Probably a welcome relief for Penney though to come out the other side with a deserved victory against the team on top of the table.
Mate I remain impressed with supporters who get off the arses and go and support their team when they going crap is all I mean. The easiest thing in sport is to follow a team that wins constantly, but good supporters keep going and making sure the team knows they there yelling for them.
May just be a thing with me, he I have gone out supporting teams getting thrashed week in and out, because they my team. And I do it from school/club level to ABs, just what I do.
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@Dan54 said in Crusaders vs Blues:
@antipodean said in Crusaders vs Blues:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders vs Blues:
Well I think you have to be a bit pleased for Crusaders win for their supporters'
And I mean the ones that go to game, they have had good crowds all yearm and that's what proper supporters do, go and cheer support their team by being there regardless of how teams results are.I care for them as much as I care for Brumbies supporters, which is to say not at all.
Probably a welcome relief for Penney though to come out the other side with a deserved victory against the team on top of the table.
Mate I remain impressed with supporters who get off the arses and go and support their team when they going crap is all I mean. The easiest thing in sport is to follow a team that wins constantly, but good supporters keep going and making sure the team knows they there yelling for them.
Agreed. Easy to recognise fair weather fans, but I don't dip into the empathy well for them when I'm busy watching my own shite teams.
May just be a thing with me, he I have gone out supporting teams getting thrashed week in and out, because they my team. And I do it from school/club level to ABs, just what I do.
You're not Robinson Crusoe there Dan.
Brumbies don't seem to have that problem though.
Yeah, they do.
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@hydro11 said in Crusaders vs Blues:
So Crusaders have a genuine chance at the playoffs. However, if there is a tie break it comes down to most wins. Crusaders have a lot of bonus points, but one less win than the teams they would be level with. So they need to hope other teams aren't picking up bonus points.
If Clan beat Drua, then Drua beat Rebels at home Chch is gone.
