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<p>Music is so subjective, and there really isn't any band which faces this more than Metallica!</p>
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<p>I thought Death Magnetic was totally awesome, and still listen to it quite often. Is it at good as the old stuff? Nah, not in my view. But it's certainly the best album since Master of Puppets for me.</p> -
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<p>MOP / AJFA / RTL / KEA / BLACK / GDR / Everything else in that order for me. The new single isn't for me.<br>
Not much between MOP and AJFA, AJFA was my introduction to Metallica back in the day.</p>
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<p>I'd got MOP / RTL joint first then DM / AJFA / KEA / Black then rest. </p>
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<p>Never been as big on And Justice as many others are. If you ask me thoughts on best albumn between Master & Ride the lightning, I'd probably give you a different answer each time.</p> -
<p>I'm with you Rembrandt, i like Load, it's a solid rock (if not metal) album. And it's also very clear that the songs on Reload were the ones that weren't deemed good enough for Load.</p>
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<p>While the whole of Load isn't great, there are a lot of songs i really like. </p>
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<p>The Black album is actually really good if given an unbiased chance, but it's forever been tarred with that sell out brush.</p>
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<p>I love Justice, it's metal as fuck (including having a rubbish production). </p>
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<p>If i had to name my 5 favourite Metallica songs, they would be from 5 different albums</p> -
<p>I would certainly rate Load higher than re-load, although I struggle for some strange reason to really think of them as Metallica albumns. Both are certainly better than St. Anger.</p>
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<p>If i had to name my 5 favourite Metallica songs, they would be from 5 different album</p>
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<p>Challenge accepted! Hit the lights .. Bell Tolls ... Creeping Death ... Battery ... Sanitarium .. Unforgven .. Outlaw Torn (bet I'm the only person on the planet who thinks this) .. Low Mans Lyric ... Suicide & Redemption all jump to mind. I also like a massive fan of Tuesdays gone on Garage Inc, but that doesn't really count. So trimming 4 from that list ...</p>
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<p>Hit the lights ... Battery ... Outlaw Torn .. Bell Tolls .. Unforgiven.</p>
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<p>Outlaw Torn is a sick song! Have you heard the full length version? it was a B-side on one of their singles.</p>
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<p>Leper Messiah, The Frayed Ends of Sanity, Creeping Death, Am I Evil, Wherever I May Roam. (it fucking kills me to leave off For Whom The Bell Tolls)</p> -
<p>Well, it's certainly not Metallica, but I really liked this song from the Olympic closing ceremony.</p>
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<p>A small piece of research tells me it's usually a Marisa Monte song. I wonder why she didn't perform it, given she performed in London at the flag handover?</p>
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<p>Metallica have just about reached Nickleback status when it comes to online hate and I'm not entirely sure why. In "One" "Enter Sandman" "Wherever I may roam" "Master of Puppets" "Battery" and a few I can't remember they have done shit as good as ANYTHING you will ever hear in hard rock, how come the Stones ( who are another generation apart ) prance around without such ridicule ? Is Lars Ulrich enough of a dick to create this hate ? Was their version of "One" with that weird guy on piano really that bad ? ( well yes Lars is a dick and it was bad ) Is James Hetfields nice guy persona too at odds with his onstage anger ?</p>
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<p>As good as the above songs I mentioned are they've also done some turgid, utter shit. "Nothing Else Matters" "Whisky in the jar" "Memory Remains" ( fuck off Marianne Faithful, the blame for that is mainly on you, on what planet does that horrific warbling at the end actually sound good ? ) and a few others.</p>
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<p>They also have my favourite bassist in Robert Trujillo in the ranks and another departed legend in Cliff Burton before him but perhaps the slow ( er ) and steady Jason Newstead was the best man for the job, kind of a Rueben Thorne to their Jerome Kaino/Jerry Collins ? No coincidence that their best work was done with him hammering the four strings even if he was hardly a virtuoso compared to them.</p> -
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<p>Metallica have just about reached Nickleback status when it comes to online hate and I'm not entirely sure why. In "One" "Enter Sandman" "Wherever I may roam" "Master of Puppets" "Battery" and a few I can't remember they have done shit as good as ANYTHING you will ever hear in hard rock, how come the Stones ( who are another generation apart ) prance around without such ridicule ? Is Lars Ulrich enough of a dick to create this hate ? Was their version of "One" with that weird guy on piano really that bad ? ( well yes Lars is a dick and it was bad ) Is James Hetfields nice guy persona too at odds with his onstage anger ?</p>
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<p>As good as the above songs I mentioned are they've also done some turgid, utter shit. "Nothing Else Matters" "Whisky in the jar" "Memory Remains" ( fuck off Marianne Faithful, the blame for that is mainly on you, on what planet does that horrific warbling at the end actually sound good ? ) and a few others.</p>
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<p>They also have my favourite bassist in Robert Trujillo in the ranks and another departed legend in Cliff Burton before him but perhaps the slow ( er ) and steady Jason Newstead was the best man for the job, kind of a Rueben Thorne to their Jerome Kaino/Jerry Collins ? No coincidence that their best work was done with him hammering the four strings even if he was hardly a virtuoso compared to them.</p>
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<p>I feel sorry for Newstead, he was there the longest and only got four song writing credits the whole time and they treated him like shit for most of it. The rot set in for me around the Load era, I stopped bothering around then, it seemed only fair they appear to have then too.</p>
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<p>I feel sorry for Newstead, he was there the longest and only got four song writing credits the whole time and they treated him like shit for most of it. The rot set in for me around the Load era, I stopped bothering around then, it seemed only fair they appear to have then too.</p>
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<p>Have you seen Trujillos doco about Jaco Pastorius?</p>
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<p>No but I am definitely keen to despite JP encapsulating too much musical Do a Willis for me, I'm member of a guitar/bass group on FB and they post vids etc and in one there was a festival in which a band had FOUR fucken bass players each taking turns to solo......yawn. Fuck me sideways it was 6-7 minutes but felt like an eternity, there's a fine line between good and bad and in terms of guitarists I love Richie Blackmore but can't stand all the neo classical shredheads he inspired. </p>
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<p>Again, I love bass as an instrument, play well if I do say so myself and always dig a great groove so will have a watch of the doco, thanks for the reminder.</p>
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<p>Newstead certainly didn't play a lot of notes but the rhythm in which he played them was pretty awesome. There's any number of pretty ordinary four stringers who get lucky by being in a massive band. Bill Wyman, Adam Clayton, any of ACDCs Bassists and many others, shit even good old Roger Glover was pretty ordinary compared to the rest of Deep Purple but sometimes that minimalist approach suits the band so much better.</p>
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<p>Trujillo definitely get's the spot in my all time World band spot ahead of Flea, Louis Johnson, Geezer Butler, Steve Harris, John Entwistle, Les Claypool, Larry Graham, Stuart Zender ( Jamiroquai ) Bill Gould ( Faith no More ).......he is head and shoulders above them all and I love his attitude and presence.</p>
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<p>Metallica face what they do because of they have done so much cross over. At some point in time, all of their fans, have been of the view that something about them sucked hard.</p>
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I gotta jump on the Metallica 5. From top of my head: House that Jack built, For whom the bell tolls, One, Mama Said, So what. And could easily name another 20 or so. They were my first ever gig at 16 in Wellington, blew my socks off, greatest gig ever...And then 16 years later I saw them again at Download festival in the UK playing the whole black album start to finish plus multi encores of everyones favourites, seriously just as good as when I first saw them. Would see them again in a heartbeat even though I haven't listened to anything post reload.
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<p><strong>Metallica face what they do because of they have done so much cross over. At some point in time, all of their fans, have been of the view that something about them sucked hard.</strong></p>
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<p>Still, they sell out stadium tour after stadium tour, so I really doubt they give a shit.</p>
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<p>In the book Enter Night theres a bit about Lars hanging out with the two twats from Oasis because he thought that where music was heading and they might like a piece of it. </p>
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<p>No but I am definitely keen to despite JP encapsulating too much musical Do a Willis for me, I'm member of a guitar/bass group on FB and they post vids etc and in one there was a festival in which a band had FOUR fucken bass players each taking turns to solo......yawn. Fuck me sideways it was 6-7 minutes but felt like an eternity, there's a fine line between good and bad and in terms of guitarists I love Richie Blackmore but can't stand all the neo classical shredheads he inspired. </p>
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<p>Again, I love bass as an instrument, play well if I do say so myself and always dig a great groove so will have a watch of the doco, thanks for the reminder.</p>
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<p>Newstead certainly didn't play a lot of notes but the rhythm in which he played them was pretty awesome. There's any number of pretty ordinary four stringers who get lucky by being in a massive band. <strong>Bill Wyman, Adam Clayton, any of ACDCs Bassists and many others, shit even good old Roger Glover was pretty ordinary compared to the rest of Deep Purple but sometimes that minimalist approach suits the band so much better.</strong></p>
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<p>Trujillo definitely get's the spot in my all time World band spot ahead of Flea, Louis Johnson, Geezer Butler, Steve Harris, John Entwistle, Les Claypool, Larry Graham, Stuart Zender ( Jamiroquai ) Bill Gould ( Faith no More ).......he is head and shoulders above them all and I love his attitude and presence.</p>
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<p>You get that with drummers too, I wouldn't say those guys are ordinary they just aren't flashy. John Paul Jones and Roger Waters basslines are pretty simple but I doubt anyone would call them an ordinary musicians. </p>
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<p>Metallica have just about reached Nickleback status when it comes to online hate and I'm not entirely sure why. In "One" "Enter Sandman" "Wherever I may roam" "Master of Puppets" "Battery" and a few I can't remember they have done shit as good as ANYTHING you will ever hear in hard rock, how come the Stones ( who are another generation apart ) prance around without such ridicule ? Is Lars Ulrich enough of a dick to create this hate ? Was their version of "One" with that weird guy on piano really that bad ? ( well yes Lars is a dick and it was bad ) Is James Hetfields nice guy persona too at odds with his onstage anger ?</p>
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<p>As good as the above songs I mentioned are they've also done some turgid, utter shit. "Nothing Else Matters" "Whisky in the jar" "Memory Remains" ( fuck off Marianne Faithful, the blame for that is mainly on you, on what planet does that horrific warbling at the end actually sound good ? ) and a few others.</p>
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<p>They also have my favourite bassist in Robert Trujillo in the ranks and another departed legend in Cliff Burton before him <strong>but perhaps the slow ( er ) and steady Jason Newstead was the best man for the job, kind of a Rueben Thorne to their Jerome Kaino</strong>/Jerry Collins ? No coincidence that their best work was done with him hammering the four strings even if he was hardly a virtuoso compared to them.</p>
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<p>I don't care who the fuck you are if you have a choice between Thorne and Kaino you take Kaino. Kaino can play like Thorne if you ask him to (although why would you want to?)</p>
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<p>Who would have thought the music thread would make me so angry.</p>
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<p>You get that with drummers too, I wouldn't say those guys are ordinary they just aren't flashy. John Paul Jones and Roger Waters basslines are pretty simple but I doubt anyone would call them an ordinary musicians. </p>
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<p>I can't stand Flea or the rest of his band . I've been listening to a bit of Iron Maiden lately and Steve Harris really is a superb bass player, need to check out his solo album.</p>
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<p>I've said on here numerous times the Chillis were awesome til they got off the drugs, the moment 2000 hit they turned to shit overall ( not unlike Metalica ) what are your thoughts on Bill Gould ? ( Faith no More ) like the rest of FNM his versatility is outstanding.</p>
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<p>Agree that Roger Waters basslines are simple ( I much prefer Gilmour ) but JPJ did some pretty far out stuff at times. Totally agree on Steve Harris, he is an excellent bassist, the whole of Iron Maiden are top notch musos now I think about it. Harris's high end runs and licks are pretty unique and he drives everything behind the scenes.</p>
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<p>Oasis.....</p>
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<p>I don't care who the fuck you are if you have a choice between Thorne and Kaino you take Kaino. Kaino can play like Thorne if you ask him to (although why would you want to?)</p>
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<p>Who would have thought the music thread would make me so angry.</p>
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<p>Bogans! ;)</p>
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<p>Well yeah but Thorne/Newstead at the time may have seemed like the glue to hold the team/band together.....</p>
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<p>then Kaino/Trujillo came along and provided some real dynamism.......</p>
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<p>I've said on here numerous times the Chillis were awesome til they got off the drugs, the moment 2000 hit they turned to shit overall ( not unlike Metalica ) what are your thoughts on Bill Gould ? ( Faith no More ) like the rest of FNM his versatility is outstanding.</p>
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<p>Agree that Roger Waters basslines are simple ( I much prefer Gilmour ) but JPJ did some pretty far out stuff at times. Totally agree on Steve Harris, he is an excellent bassist, the whole of Iron Maiden are top notch musos now I think about it. Harris's high end runs and licks are pretty unique and he drives everything behind the scenes.</p>
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<p>Oasis.....</p>
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<p>Always have, always will.</p>
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<p>Billy Gould is a superb bass player, was he the first to do slap and pop bass in hard rock or metal or whatever fmn are? Interesting they can't stand each other mostly and live in and record in different parts of the US . </p>
<p>I think Harris does the bulk of the songwriting too, I have them on the stereo in my ute at the moment . </p>
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Fuck i hate Lars. Have done ever since my hundrrd-odd views of both chapters of "a year and a half in the life of"<br><br>
The guy has an overwhelming need to be accepted and liked. Ironically it makes him a complete fluffybunny.
