Chiefs 2024
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@ploughboy said in Chiefs 2024:
trask more likely to spend time at fullback than 1st 5 given Dmac and josh J are ahead of him
The reason Trask went to play in Japan last year was to get more experience at 1st 5 and driving his team around the field. The alternative would have been hardly playing, as there were four others who could play 1st 5. I would hope he wouldn't have played fullback this year as that was hardly a success previously.
You would assume Trask was being developed to be DMac's long-term successor but his injuries have given Jacomb an opportunity. If Jacomb is a full squad member in 2025 it would be to replace Ioane.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2024:
@ploughboy said in Chiefs 2024:
trask more likely to spend time at fullback than 1st 5 given Dmac and josh J are ahead of him
The reason Trask went to play in Japan last year was to get more experience at 1st 5 and driving his team around the field. The alternative would have been hardly playing, as there were four others who could play 1st 5. I would hope he wouldn't have played fullback this year as that was hardly a success previously.
You would assume Trask was being developed to be DMac's long-term successor but his injuries have given Jacomb an opportunity. If Jacomb is a full squad member in 2025 it would be to replace Ioane.
I agree with your thinking but think the plans would have changed. Trask really has struggled at 10 and 15 just hasn't kicked on. he has talent but injury's has stopped his progress so will be interested what happens moving forward. unless he has a great npc he properly behind Dmac and joshJ at 1st and SS and ENS at fullback
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So Sam Cane has been granted an early release from the final year (2025) of his contract with New Zealand Rugby. Are the Chiefs happy with the current options at 7, or do they look for another specialist openside for 2025? I am still not the biggest fan of Jacobson as a 7. I am assuming Florence is only on a 1-yr contract.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2024:
So Sam Cane has been granted an early release from the final year (2025) of his contract with New Zealand Rugby. Are the Chiefs happy with the current options at 7, or do they look for another specialist openside for 2025? I am still not the biggest fan of Jacobson as a 7. I am assuming Florence is only on a 1-yr contract.
I wonder if he essentially retiring due to injury so no need for his final year.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs 2024:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2024:
So Sam Cane has been granted an early release from the final year (2025) of his contract with New Zealand Rugby. Are the Chiefs happy with the current options at 7, or do they look for another specialist openside for 2025? I am still not the biggest fan of Jacobson as a 7. I am assuming Florence is only on a 1-yr contract.
I wonder if he essentially retiring due to injury so no need for his final year.
He has signed a 3 year extension to keep playing in Japan.
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Can't argue with Cane going now.
My feeling is that we'd be wise to chase a 7 from elsewhere, but I'm not sure who we'd want that is actually better than Jacobson at 7.
With Sititi developing and Finau locked into 6 I feel like Jacobson may still be our best option at 7. Based on that, not sure who would want to come.
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@Windows97 if I were the Chiefs I would throw a contract at Kirifi. Lakai looks to have nailed down that starting spot and Kirifi started out in the Waikato so could be a good match.
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@Canes4life Not a bad call. Kirifi was in the same winning Waikato U19 team as Jacobson.
With early contracting into academies it will be tough to get someone already in another SR team unless they want to move. It appears McMillan is happy enough with the likes of Boshier given he is a VC. If that's the case he needs to play there more regularly for Taranaki.
There are young opensides coming through the Chiefs system but they have little or no NPC experience yet, so a few years away from being in the frame for SR.
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@Tim said in Chiefs 2024:
What is Simon Parker's best position?
No.8 then 6. He's the same height as S Barrett and not mobile enough to be a 7.
Is Sititi a possibility. Still think it's worth giving Jacobson an extended run at 7.
I was surprised Sititi wasn't tried at 7. Really McMillan should be using the same loose forward trio against the Rebels that he intends to use for the last two games.
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@Canes4life said in Chiefs 2024:
@Windows97 if I were the Chiefs I would throw a contract at Kirifi.
No thanks he's a piston wristed gibbon
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@ploughboy said in Chiefs 2024:
if Florence was the answer he would be playing now.
Florence has been injured at times but is clearly the lowest ranked loose forward.
Mathis is really the next in line but two years away.
You've got Oli Mathis, Micah Fale and Grady Forbes. All were in the Chiefs U20s and Forbes debuted for BOP last year. To use coach-speak they each have different profiles. Veveni Lasaqa has spent time with the Hurricanes this season so is more experienced than the others.
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He's one of few players who I actively dislike, but I will admit he would be a good pickup.
The issue is, would we really want him to start?
I personally think Jacobson at 7 might suit our style better but Finau, Kirifi, Jacobson could be very useful.
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The under 20 openside looked pretty useful against Australia yesterday. Maybe worth looking at
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Another option for the Chiefs is Veveni Lasaga who was the openside for BOP this year. He's looked good for the Canes in the appearances he's had for the main side and the dev side this year. Looks like a young Ardie Savea. I think he played for the Chiefs under 20s when they won the comp so again the Chiefs already know him.
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Jacobson has the most breakdown turnovers in SR according to a graphic that was shown during the Blues-Hurricanes game. McMillan has said that he prefers Jacobson at no.8 as he gets his hands on the ball more, and he is definitely better with the ball at his feet from a scrum than Sititi.
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@Canes4life I mentioned Lasaga as a slightly more experienced option. He doesn't always start for BOP though as Norris is preferred. He (Norris) could be in the mix too.
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