All Blacks 2024
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
"Shannon Frizell was one of the great movers in New Zealand rugby last year,
Pity the useless twat stopped moving at the time we needed him most.
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Well, the biggest problem there is the ref's making shit up to appease a crowd
The TMO cleared it. So you think legal tackles in the eyes of the officials are bad now?
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Put him in the 6 jersey and tell him to go out and smash fluffybunnies. Perfect
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@mariner4life guess the issue is this potentially puts a target on him and we know how inept and inconsistent some of the TMOs are, which kinda sums up things at the moment.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
"Shannon Frizell was one of the great movers in New Zealand rugby last year,
Pity the useless twat stopped moving at the time we needed him most.
I am, personally, perfectly happy with 1 tackle, 1 missed, and 7 runs of 16m against the boks. And by personally, I mean if it was me playing. As an AB loose forward, it's terrible
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I think if you go back and read again, one of the many frustrating things about the previous AB period was the passive defense. Watching opposition players skip around, do a fancy head swish before running up to the AB defensive line behind the ruck has contributed to my declining mental health. Finau has brought a smile to my face.
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I remember when Fozzie first took over and talked about the need for more physicality on defense. He then got Akira absolutely humming for a season and I thought we'd turned a corner, but then Akira got burnt out and we just kept going with wet blanket Frizzell after that waiting for his 1 out of 100 decent games to occur. Our loosies are looking really strong this year.
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fozzie got akira humming before burning him out? i dont remember fozzie really giving him more a couple of games at a time
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@Kiwiwomble your memory fails you then. These were the MOTM standings in 2021 after the 2nd Bok test at the end of our season:
Current standings:
17 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
10 David Havili
9 Jordie Barrett
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 Rieko Ioane
8 Brodie Retallick
8 Luke Jacobson
7 Ethan Blackadder
5 Codie Taylor
5 Samisoni Taukeiaho
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
4 Quinn Tupaea
4 Damian McKenzie
4 Beauden Barrett
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Scott Barrett
1 TJ Perenara
1 George BowerI think more than just a couple of games that year.
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obviously failed me but i felt there was a lot of chat around him not getting a good chance to prove himself at test level, ignore me
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Nah he amassed 17 points from coming either 1st, 2nd or 3rd in our polls throughout the year. By Bok II he was burnt out and had a quiet game, and after that they seemed to just favour Frizzell for reasons unknown to me.
Edit - the chat about him not being given chances was in the seasons after that I believe, given he'd proven he could do it at the top level already.
But enough about the past, this thread is about looking forward
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@No-Quarter ok, i was just replying to your comment about the past, looking forward it is
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life Doran purports to be a journalist and can't even articulate his argument properly in writing. It's full of contradictions.
How is it 'Finau's 3rd strike' when the ref and tmo said two of them were fine?
How is it 'more than fractionally late' if the ref and tmo said it was fine?
If it's 'just as they release the ball' isn't that fine and wouldn't that be fractionally late?
Christy Doran:
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I remember when Fozzie first took over and talked about the need for more physicality on defense. He then got Akira absolutely humming for a season and I thought we'd turned a corner, but then Akira got burnt out and we just kept going with wet blanket Frizzell after that waiting for his 1 out of 100 decent games to occur. Our loosies are looking really strong this year.
In that year, he was good against Oz and the Argies, but not the Japies.(but my memory could be totally wrong and I am too lazy to look it up)
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Hansen clearly had problems with Akira but Foster saw something and there was def. a big improvement in attitude and his dickhead-ness pretty much disappeared, but IIRC he never really kicked on in the big games.
He's had plenty of chances and at some stage the coaches need to move on. That said, he's still only 28.
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One of those guys with all the gifts - imo. He's so strong in contact but doesn't use his power in a direct enough way. Always takes little jinks before contact and doesn't like laying people out on defence like Finau does. Like a sevens player or back trapped in a bigger body. I vaguely remember one of the Canterbury posters saying Razor didn't want him the Canterbury squad.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
One of those guys with all the gifts - imo. He's so strong in contact but doesn't use his power in a direct enough way. Always takes little jinks before contact and doesn't like laying people out on defence like Finau does. Like a sevens player or back trapped in a bigger body. I vaguely remember one of the Canterbury posters saying Razor didn't want him the Canterbury squad.
Those small steps are the key to why he often makes good post contact yards in tight space.
But sometimes what is needed is the direct hard carry, and he seems less inclined to take that on.
This is what I'm talking about:
