The Future of Protein?
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@chimoaus said in The Future of Protein?:
@mariner4life said in The Future of Protein?:
if that article is right, and it seems to tie itself in knots to say that the data is hazy
then only 10% or so of clearing is of "forest" 30 years or older.
The problem is it takes a fucken long time to replace 30+ year old forest and its ecosystems. That 10% in QLD is 370,900 hectares of forest, that is a fucken tragedy. Sure, you can plant some trees, but Koalas and most native fauna can't survive in these trees planted in offsets.
I have no idea why we should be allowed to clear native forest when so much of the country has already been cleared. We should be trying to be more efficient with the land we have.
I think the long term solution will be for the Govt to pay some sort of incentive for forested land people own. If farmers or landholders get rewarded for regeneration and forest then they will be less likely to chop it down.
totally agree. Also think there is money to be had in careful greening of cities, tree cover to keep the heating pavements shaded, etc etc.
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@taniwharugby plenty of debateable points in that one. she seems more in favour of plant which i would disagree with even from a health perpsective. but final message is really all that matters for most people. protein is protein.
Meat gets a bad rep, but you combine a gluten free vegan diet with 100g of lean meat per meal, and i would say you cannot eat better than that.
so many other big ticket health factors before you worry about saturated fat, and dietary cholestrol is unrelated to blood levels, eggs are great
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@chimoaus said in The Future of Protein?:
Once cultivated meat tastes the same and is cheaper or the same price will you buy it?
No
Do you think this is ever likely to happen?
People who can afford real meat will eat real meat.
Do you have any issues with the climate impacts of traditional animal agriculture?
None whatsoever.
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@Winger said in The Future of Protein?:
Do you think this is ever likely to happen?
Yes, I do.
Cultivated meat is likely to overtake real meat as it scales up. Don't know when. And I can see it being a protein source of choice for a number of people.
Note there's a big difference between meat grown in the lab (real meat) and meat subsitutes like the pea-proteins, etc.
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@nzzp
Once it gets to a point where taste and cost are the same then I do t think people will give a shit.Maybe the best way for people to eat top quality meat in the future is to keep human farms like the matrix and and they way usda prime rib in a simulation!
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The economics of the plant based "meat" may just never stack up, not so much as in plant based meat v normal meat but in that it's simply much easier and profitable to turn your peas, corn etc. into other products that have an existing market you can so easily sell to than to go to all the effort and expense of turning into plant based meat.
At the end of the day economics and economies of scale always wins...
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@Windows97 said in The Future of Protein?:
The economics of the plant based "meat" may just never stack up, not so much as in plant based meat v normal meat but in that it's simply much easier and profitable to turn your peas, corn etc. into other products that have an existing market you can so easily sell to than to go to all the effort and expense of turning into plant based meat.
At the end of the day economics and economies of scale always wins...
WE could all start eating bugs (grasshoppers) say. As per Klaus Schwab and his WEF 'own nothing be happy, eat the bugs', solution.
Grasshoppers are a very nutritious food source12. They contain about 40% protein, 43% fat, and 13% dietary fiber1. Grasshoppers have higher protein content than many other animal and plant sources like chicken, eggs, and beans1. They are a great food source for chickens, especially during the winter months when other sources of protein may be scarce2. Besides protein, grasshoppers contain high levels of calcium, magnesium, and iron2.