Black Caps v Australia
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the series averages make interesting reading
Our batting is obviously complete shit. But theirs isn't much better. Cam Green's knock in the first the stands out like dogs balls. The first test is completely shaped by his knock. In the 2nd test Marnus gets 90 to give them a decent lead while everyone else fails. Then Carey and Marsh see them home.
If you had have told us before the series that we could have Smith, Khawaja, Head and Marnus all average less than 25 you would think we're in the game.
the problem is, 3 scores of 3 and one of 90 is probably more conducive to winning games than 4 innings of 25, for the same series average. -
If the 9 dropped catches stat from earlier in thread is correct , and for this test series only. So, making some big assumptions ...
Out of 37 dismissals. 24 were catches.
Don't know if Blundell dropped any of them. Assuming they are 9 dropped outfield catches. 7 of the 24 catches taken in series were by the keeper.
So, possibly that is 9 dropped and 17 taken outfield catches?
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@Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:
A bowling attack of Henry,O'Rourke,Sears backed by Santner as we need some one to hold an end down when the ball is old and Phillips is now a genuine option.
Could Nathan Smith also be an option? Pretty good new ball bowler? Handy bat.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:
A bowling attack of Henry,O'Rourke,Sears backed by Santner as we need some one to hold an end down when the ball is old and Phillips is now a genuine option.
Could Nathan Smith also be an option? Pretty good new ball bowler? Handy bat.
Maybe good Cricketer maybe an allrounder option.
I don’t think he is an all out test strike bowler like the others I mentioned. -
Was hopeful but not optimistic heading into the days play given who Oz had at the crease, the way their tail plays these days and the fact that the wicket was only getting better for the batting side.
Agree with others that the biggest disappointment is the dropped catches. We simply do not have enough class (with the ball and bat) to drop catches. In my view we need take 90-95% of catching opportunities plus have a bit of luck go our way to be really in it.
Kudos to Henry for winning player of the series. Not bad in a 0-2 result. Time we found some proper support for him to really flourish rather than flash in the pan because we heap the pressure on him.
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@Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:
We were always 70/80 runs short, with Southee leading the attack we are just treading water with an inability to strike as often as we needed to.
A bowling attack of Henry,O'Rourke,Sears backed by Santner as we need some one to hold an end down when the ball is old and Phillips is now a genuine option.That attack could bowl sides out cheaply, Jamieson when back then we have the option of bowling 4 quicks and not playing Santner.
Sorry Timmy but you are just wasting the new ball now time to gracefully retire.I don't think Tim will go on his own. And I think NZC are too spineless to fire Stead. Only hope is Stead walks, a new coach comes in and, like Hesson before him, picks a new Captain and demotes Tim. It was always an odd selection choice, considering that Latham had been the 2IC for several seasons and was the logical choice to take the job when Kane gave it up. This is going to hold up any recovery for some time IMHO
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Man you all sound like Wallaby fans. I understand it innately but it's just such loser talk. Stuff like:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v Australia:
Was hopeful but not optimistic heading into the days play given who Oz had at the crease, the way their tail plays these days and the fact that the wicket was only getting better for the batting side.
I'm sorry but you had Australia 5/80 chasing 280. You've just got to win that game. Even at 7/220 you still should have won. Pitch wasn't a minefield but it was far from a road.
It's like Wallaby fans like me who are shitting themselves when they are up by 24 points midway through the second half, then going 'well you just have to tip your hats to the ABs' when they inevitably capitulate and lose by 12.
No, you don't have to tip your fucking hat to them, that's what got us into this mess in the first place. It's loser talk and if you let it linger it starts to seep into the carpet, and then the walls, and then you are stuck with it forever.
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that and you just can't allow it to keep happening. I've got a therapist you can talk to who's done wonders with me and a few of my Wallaby fan mates - can DM their number if needed.
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@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
That's two fifths of the attack.
It's half our attack - we just got lucky with GP turning into a proper spinner for a while
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
SK bowled THREE overs ?!?!?
Fucken hell that is ridiculously embarrassing for a frontline seamer
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@NTA said in Black Caps v Australia:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fancy Daryl Mitchell saying after the match that "we won't be defined by our results'
WTF of course the team is defined by their resultsThat's some real Bazball thinking
4-1 in India but I’m sure they played some entertaining cricket
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
This is still roughly the same team that won the World Test Championship. By the standards of test cricket you'd only have them behind India and Australia. That may say more about the standard of test cricket than the Black Caps, but still...
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
nah, they choked. 9 dropped catches. Even with tweedle dee and tweedle dum they still could have won. Yes, those two handicapped the team further but we still found a way to lose.
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@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
This is still roughly the same team that won the World Test Championship. By the standards of test cricket you'd only have them behind India and Australia. That may say more about the standard of test cricket than the Black Caps, but still...
Southee has declined and Boult, Wags and Jamieson aren’t there.
Taylor, CDGH and Watling have retired, Conway is injured.
I think you’re delirious with victory celebrations…..
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@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:
@barbarian said in Black Caps v Australia:
So take this as the compliment it's meant to be - you choked that. Hard. You are a way better side than that
'You are a way better side than that'
No they aren't.
Southee is on fumes and SK ain't a test player.
That's two fifths of the attack.
This is still roughly the same team that won the World Test Championship. By the standards of test cricket you'd only have them behind India and Australia. That may say more about the standard of test cricket than the Black Caps, but still...
pfft ahahaha you're waaaaay off base there
did they have the same crest on their shirts? yes. is it the same team? absolutely not.
