Boxing Thread
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@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
All criticisms you could level at Joe Joyce who beat Parker.
BUT…….Parker has made me eat some online words with his improvement, increased power and aggression. This fight will be very interesting.
Two good points! I would have thought Joyce was a better-trained all-round boxer than Zhang, but I may have underrated the latter!
Yeah Joyce got out juggernaughted by another juggernaught…..TWICE.
Slightly pedantic maybe but mentioning a boxer as being “tough” is pretty redundant. They all are.
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Joyce was tailor made for Zhang - he marched forward and his defense revolves around letting his opponent hit him in the head until the opponent tires- worked well v sick and average puncher in Joe but not a big bang.
Parker will snipe and move in and out.
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@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Joyce was tailor made for Zhang - he marched forward and his defense revolves around letting his opponent hit him in the head until the opponent tires- worked well v sick and average puncher in Joe but not a big bang.
Parker will snipe and move in and out.
Hopefully has some decent southpaw sparing lined upBrief but excellent summary. Boxing ( or any combat sport ) is full of examples of A beating B, B beating C but then C beating A.
A couple of years back I would have predicted Parker get a similar mauling by Zhang ( who has all of Joyces strengths with the added awkwardness of being a southpaw ) but that performance vs Wilder really made me stand up and take notice.
Of course there is the argument that neither Wilder or Fury for that matter are the same fighters they were before their trilogies. Trilogies fuck guys up like nothing else, the fact Ali had two of them vs Frazier and Norton really defies belief. These ( and so many other tough fights ) are such a factor in the greatest of them all declining so much later in life.
I’ll say it again, Parkers improvement really is amazing.
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@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Joyce was tailor made for Zhang - he marched forward and his defense revolves around letting his opponent hit him in the head until the opponent tires- worked well v sick and average puncher in Joe but not a big bang.
Parker will snipe and move in and out.
Hopefully has some decent southpaw sparing lined upYeah it’s a classic styles make fights scenario,
Joyce had no defence against that big left hand , it was like he was repeatedly hit in the head with a sledge hammer and could do nothing about it .
Parker on the other hand has improved his footwork out of sight under Andy Lee and won’t be that stationary target for zhang.
On the same card as Joshua ngannou , the saudis have been a breath of fresh air for the sport with more to come .
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@JK said in Boxing Thread:
Much respect to Joseph, he’s not afraid to take on a challenge
In boxing forums he is respected for exactly that ,he will fight anyone,
I’m guessing the fight plan will involve a lot of movement, I haven’t watched a lot of zhang outside the Joyce and hrgovic fights but there was a lot of talk before Joyce 1 he tends to tire in latter rounds .
Zhang is heavy, slow, and getting old, but he seems very tough and uncompromising. With his height, aggression and awkwardness I think this could be tough for Parker unless he can waltz around and tire him out without wilting under Zhang's power.
All criticisms you could level at Joe Joyce who beat Parker.
BUT…….Parker has made me eat some online words with his improvement, increased power and aggression. This fight will be very interesting.
well I should say I may have under-rated Zhang's footwork - not quick but pretty effective.
And the slowness comment is not meant for his handspeed-it's pretty good. -
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@JK said in Boxing Thread:
Much respect to Joseph, he’s not afraid to take on a challenge
In boxing forums he is respected for exactly that ,he will fight anyone,
I’m guessing the fight plan will involve a lot of movement, I haven’t watched a lot of zhang outside the Joyce and hrgovic fights but there was a lot of talk before Joyce 1 he tends to tire in latter rounds .
Zhang is heavy, slow, and getting old, but he seems very tough and uncompromising. With his height, aggression and awkwardness I think this could be tough for Parker unless he can waltz around and tire him out without wilting under Zhang's power.
All criticisms you could level at Joe Joyce who beat Parker.
BUT…….Parker has made me eat some online words with his improvement, increased power and aggression. This fight will be very interesting.
well I should say I may have under-rated Zhang's footwork - not quick but pretty effective.
And the slowness comment is not meant for his handspeed-it's pretty good.He seems to have that slow ( relatively speaking ) but deadly power Foreman had.
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I thought for a near 2m human at 40 his handspeed was pretty good but I'll have another look. I can't judge the outcome, just hope it is exciting.
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A relaxed Parker interview with David Adesanya
00:45 Happy Training Camp
01:20 Lupesoliai Laaulialemalietoa Samoan Matai (Chief) Titles
02:41 Upbringing / Amateur Career
04:48 Turning Pro / WBO Title Run / Recent Changes In Career
06:53 2023 Campaign (4 - 0, 2 KO) / Deontay Wilder Fight
08:36 Has Saudi Arabia Come To Save Boxing?
09:11 Zhilei Zhang Match Up
10:39 Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury
11:24 Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk -
Well done joe , that’s 2 fights in a row his constant feinting and changing of height has heavy hitters hesitant to let their hands go
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
Joe does it again !
What an unbelievable career turnaround, absolutely amazing stuff.
Yeah he is only 32 as well ,
The title probably came too easy before he was ready , and was under developed mentally and technically for this big fights that followed
In the form of his career now though , good on him
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
Joe does it again !
What an unbelievable career turnaround, absolutely amazing stuff.
Yeah he is only 32 as well ,
The title probably came too easy before he was ready , and was under developed mentally and technically for this big fights that followed
In the form of his career now though , good on him
Happy to be proven completely wrong on him. I thought he was absolutely finished after the Joyce beating.
Zhang has immense power and an awkward style but fuck all else. That power is dangerous though and hats of to JP for getting straight up, outboxing him and gassing him out.
JP is just so damn likable too, unlike another famous fighter out of Auckland.
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Brutal by AJ , speaking of form reversals , he is looking much better than the gun shy fighter we have seen since the Ruiz loss
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Did not see that coming
Neither did Francis
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