Black Caps v South Africa
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !
Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the test side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut
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@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !
Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the rest side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut
I guess one good thing is that it shows the sponsors can't dictate selection.
I bet ANZ would have been very keen for their poster boy to be selected in the test team as early as possible.
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@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !
Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the rest side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut
Hmmmmmm, not so sure about that. Nicholls did get 200 not out and you can say all you want about flat tracks, home conditions etc. He had to go out and actually get the runs and he did……
The selectors still had to find a spot for RR, no way they were dropping KW or Mitch. The team needed openers and a keeper….
It is much harder for a batsman to be dropped from this era of the BCs than a bowler
( Wagner probably sitting in the 12th man bunker getting furious )
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Beautiful to see two unbeaten tons at the end of a day's play. South Africa bowled nicely especially in the first session. Latham won't get too many plaudits for his innings, but I think it was important in blunting the attack. Not an innings that will stick in the memory, but just an elite opener doing the basics of his role. He's an important part of this team.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !
Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the rest side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut
Hmmmmmm, not so sure about that. Nicholls did get 200 not out and you can say all you want about flat tracks, home conditions etc. He had to go out and actually get the runs and he did……
The selectors still had to find a spot for RR, no way they were dropping KW or Mitch. The team needed openers and a keeper….
It is much harder for a batsman to be dropped from this era of the BCs than a bowler
( Wagner probably sitting in the 12th man bunker getting furious )
Fuck mate, don't get facts in the way of my narrative!
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Be interesting to see the approach tomorrow. I think we'll see a similar approach to the third session today in session one tomorrow, and then looking to accelerate in sessions two and three with an eye to getting about an hour or so at the South Africans before stumps. With Santner as the 4th bowler we bat ludicrously deep (Phillips at 7, Southee at 11) so if we can resume our dominance tomorrow morning we're very well positioned to be super aggressive.
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I am sure we will be pushing the scoring rate tomorrow after the first hour. As has been mentioned we bat really deep and can afford to take some risks. Tomorrow and day 3 will probably be the best days to bat so I reckon we should make the most of it. In an ideal world declaring as Cyclops says about drinks on session 3 on 550-600.
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@Damo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
I am sure we will be pushing the scoring rate tomorrow after the first hour. As has been mentioned we bat really deep and can afford to take some risks. Tomorrow and day 3 will probably be the best days to bat so I reckon we should make the most of it. In an ideal world declaring as Cyclops says about drinks on session 3 on 550-600.
So much batting still to come and I’d love one of these guys to get at least a double ton.
This SA team is as green as the Hulk, we need to be ruthless and make them pay.
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Are these bowlers really South Africa's "B" team - or is there another layer between them and Rabada and Co?
You look at what Australia can roll out behind Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood and it's as good as we can field as first string, so I was a bit surprised the SA "B" attack isn't more fearsome. I was expecting more height and bounce - and more pace.
Moreki has a bit about him. de Swart is pretty much Gavin Larsen. Paterson - a more accurate Corey Anderson. Olivier - Daryl Tuffey?
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Thought SA's bowling was tidy yesterday but noticeably toothless once the pitch flattened out. Pretty much dobbly pace for the most part. They really needed to make more inroads in the first 3 hours of play but I thought they were just a tad short of the right length - meant they pinned down the scoring but didn't bring the batters forward often enough. As usual Kane looked hopelessly out of form at times but also as usual, he worked through it and got his ton. Ravindra was giving a lesson in hitting the ball hard and straight to the fielder for quite a long time but it must have helped him to have Kane there talking him through it.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Are these bowlers really South Africa's "B" team - or is there another layer between them and Rabada and Co?
You look at what Australia can roll out behind Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood and it's as good as we can field as first string, so I was a bit surprised the SA "B" attack isn't more fearsome. I was expecting more height and bounce - and more pace.
Moreki has a bit about him. de Swart is pretty much Gavin Larsen. Paterson - a more accurate Corey Anderson. Olivier - Daryl Tuffey?
A wicket first ball in your first test is what dreams are made of but fuck all since then…..also an extremely bog standard first class record that would barely get him a game for NZ B.
SA have provided some absolutely world class pace bowlers since their readmission ( and before that, loads of guys who never got to play ) but I don’t think he has that kind of pedigree.
Olivier and Paterson look excellent though according to cricinfo stats.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Are these bowlers really South Africa's "B" team - or is there another layer between them and Rabada and Co?
You look at what Australia can roll out behind Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood and it's as good as we can field as first string, so I was a bit surprised the SA "B" attack isn't more fearsome. I was expecting more height and bounce - and more pace.
Moreki has a bit about him. de Swart is pretty much Gavin Larsen. Paterson - a more accurate Corey Anderson. Olivier - Daryl Tuffey?
Not even close to B.
It's hard to rank. But probably around D.
Batting is closer to B. As in it has 2 out of 6 are actual test X1. Plus Hamza who would be a genuine B.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
So much batting still to come and I’d love one of these guys to get at least a double ton.
Or, even better, both of them, by preferably about around the drinks break in the afternoon session.
