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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    There have been many times in the last 4 years where we literally didn't have a clue.
    Things are about to happen, all good.

    That has been the case forever with most I think. Thats why we not top coaches, we have no idea what's gong on. I can honestly say, I could see what the coaches were trying to acheive as much in the last 4 years as I ever did.

    Actually with Mitchell and Deans the game plan and tactics were pretty clear I thought.
    Looked good for awhile too.

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    Enough of the retrospectives please. Go and find one of those threads.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    There have been many times in the last 4 years where we literally didn't have a clue.
    Things are about to happen, all good.

    That has been the case forever with most I think. Thats why we not top coaches, we have no idea what's gong on. I can honestly say, I could see what the coaches were trying to acheive as much in the last 4 years as I ever did.

    Actually with Mitchell and Deans the game plan and tactics were pretty clear I thought.
    Looked good for awhile too.

    I generally got their tactics , but can say I get general tactics of most coaches . just not the detail. Mitchell and Deans stumped me with their selections , but as I say they knew why they wanted certain players, and I didn't. Funnuily enough I heard Umaga speak at a luncheon in Aus, he indicated there was some confusion under the Mitchell/Deans combo.

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    There have been many times in the last 4 years where we literally didn't have a clue.
    Things are about to happen, all good.

    That has been the case forever with most I think. Thats why we not top coaches, we have no idea what's gong on. I can honestly say, I could see what the coaches were trying to acheive as much in the last 4 years as I ever did.

    Actually with Mitchell and Deans the game plan and tactics were pretty clear I thought.
    Looked good for awhile too.

    It was just the Blues 2003 tactics but then they muzzled the forwards for the RWC for some idiotic bald reason.

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    All Blacks 2024 Test schedule announced

    All Blacks 2024 Test schedule announced

    Home Tests in Dunedin, Auckland and Wellington and an historic clash with Fiji in San Diego headline a blockbuster 14-Test season for the All Blacks under new Head Coach Scott Robertson.

    England - Dunedin and Auckland
    Fiji - San Diego
    Argentina - Wellington and Auckland
    Australia - Wellington

    EOYT - Japan, England, Ireland, France and Italy

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    All Blacks

    All Blacks

    2024 schedule locked in 🔒 Sign up here for news & ticket updates ➡️ https://bit.ly/3uh50bS

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    England, Ireland & France on consecutive weekends will be tough.

    Seems like the hardest EOYT of the last decade at least

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    that is a tough year. two away in teh Republic, one away to Aus, then that tour is brutal

    with a dumbass trip to the States in the middle?

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    I have tenuous plans to rent in Italy for three months in the autumn so pleased Italy is included but man they'll be tired by then

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I wish Joe Schmidt was in the coaching team rather than Leon MacDonald or Jason Holland.

    You and me both, with all the coaching talent NZ produces it's hard to see Leon and Jason as being the 2 best assistant coach's we could get...

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I have tenuous plans to rent in Italy for three months in the autumn so pleased Italy is included but man they'll be tired by then

    fuck

    you

    bastard

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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I wish Joe Schmidt was in the coaching team rather than Leon MacDonald or Jason Holland.

    You and me both, with all the coaching talent NZ produces it's hard to see Leon and Jason as being the 2 best assistant coach's we could get...

    Who knows, but the best heads don't always make the best assistants and vice versa.

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I have tenuous plans to rent in Italy for three months in the autumn so pleased Italy is included but man they'll be tired by then

    If there was a thread entitled "My first world problems" this would surely be post of the year.

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    @Windows97 where's the problem? First world or any other...

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I wish Joe Schmidt was in the coaching team rather than Leon MacDonald or Jason Holland.

    You and me both, with all the coaching talent NZ produces it's hard to see Leon and Jason as being the 2 best assistant coach's we could get...

    Who knows, but the best heads don't always make the best assistants and vice versa.

    Well yeah they were both head coach's, was their anything in their careers that indicated that they'd make great assistant coach's?

    Leon seemed to get the head coaching gig on the rationale that he was AC at the time and couldn't possibly be worse than Tana.

    I understand it's all politics and careers but just from a simple rugby brains perspective we have Schmidt, Joseph, Brown, Rennie, Cotter all overseas (and seemingly choosing to do so i.e. not even apply) while we have Leon and Jason at home.

    I seriously hope they prove me wrong, it just sits uneasy with me at the moment.

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Windows97 where's the problem? First world or any other...

    Maybe just the way it read it, but it implied to me that your sojourn to Italy maybe marred by the AB's not being able to put 50 points over the Italians due to the tiredness invoked by their heavy schedule.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I wish Joe Schmidt was in the coaching team rather than Leon MacDonald or Jason Holland.

    You and me both, with all the coaching talent NZ produces it's hard to see Leon and Jason as being the 2 best assistant coach's we could get...

    Who knows, but the best heads don't always make the best assistants and vice versa.

    Well yeah they were both head coach's, was their anything in their careers that indicated that they'd make great assistant coach's?

    Leon seemed to get the head coaching gig on the rationale that he was AC at the time and couldn't possibly be worse than Tana.

    I understand it's all politics and careers but just from a simple rugby brains perspective we have Schmidt, Joseph, Brown, Rennie, Cotter all overseas (and seemingly choosing to do so i.e. not even apply) while we have Leon and Jason at home.

    I seriously hope they prove me wrong, it just sits uneasy with me at the moment.

    Leon McDonald did a good job for the Crusaders as an assistant he was rated highly by the players and other coaches.
    Maybe he was pushed to quickly in to a HC role.

    The Crusaders are setting Tamiti Ellison up as their next coach but as Tamati said himself he is not ready for the role yet, 2 more years as assistant before taking over as HC.

    All about timing and learning your craft imo.

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    @Windows97

    You misread it completely. I was expressing sympathy for their schedule.

    If my provisional trip goes ahead - sailing in Adriatic, bit of a tour of the Balkans and hunkering down in northern Italy ahead of an AB test then nothing short of a sudden shortage of Barolo is going to be a problem.

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    Leon did an excellent job at Ta$man - in tandem with Keiran Keane.

    We were the bottom team in 2011. Won the Championship and were promoted in 2013.

    Losing finalists the following year - as well as 2016 and 2017, by which time he was also Head Coach.

    This was done through coaching expertise on one of the lowest budgets of any of the 14 teams. The idea that it was done by money is bullshit promoted by a bunch of know-nothing dickheads!!! 🙂

    Leon also has a pretty good record as Blues coach - second only to Henry.

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    Holland was also an effective assistant coach at the Canes

    Wasn't he an assistant coach when the Canes won the title under Boyd?

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