Aussie Pro Rugby
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.
There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.
Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.
It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.
Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.
It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?
Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.
So The Australian got it right then. Go read your ABC Nick….
Brumbies are in trouble, but there are some attempts at power play going on as well
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby:
So The Australian got it right then.
Certainly the bit about rugby having financial trouble, but they're well accustomed to hyperbole.
I.e. how could anyone at RA be shocked? Annual reports are released annually
and regular updates occur between the franchises and HQ all the time.And the Brumbies have made no secret about their friction with head office. It's practically their bread and butter.
Go read your ABC Nick….
Tbh I'm not sure it's mine any more
It's either Ita's or Israel's these days
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Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -
Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.
“He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.
“Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”
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That’s a good take from Pap’ailli (poss spelling blunder).
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Future AB captain, right there.
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@Tim said in Aussie Rugby:
The competition will be better off without them.
I'm no lawyer, but I think this is pertinent:
Another possibility is that if RA was to let the Rebels go under they could pick up the franchise without inheriting the debt and then take over the franchise. It’s not yet known who the debt would fall back on, with lawyers already looking at the situation.
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To think they could've done this years ago and kept the Force.
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What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.
Sounds like an amazing business leader
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.
Sounds like an amazing business leader
Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.
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Six years after leaving the Waratahs, Andrew Kellaway has found a way home to Sydney.
The Roar can reveal the Wallabies star has signed a long-term deal to return to the Waratahs from 2025 through until the 2027 World Cup.
His signature is a swift and strong response by the Tahs after losing Mark Nawaqanitawase to the NRL, with the Wallabies young gun to join the Sydney Roosters next year.
His looming departure is a fresh blow for the Melbourne Rebels, who are fighting to stay financially afloat beyond the season.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.
Sounds like an amazing business leader
Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.
Same as high level coaches
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.
Sounds like an amazing business leader
Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.
Same as high level coaches
Dave Rennie is asking where you get your info from Mach.
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Melbourne Rebels enter voluntary administration in desperate bid for survival
The state government declined to answer whether it will pay off some of the Rebels’ debt, but confirmed they were aware the club had entered into voluntary administration.
The state government has previously bailed out the Rebels. In 2017, the then-Andrews government entered into a $20 million deal with Rugby Australia to secure the Bledisloe Cup and British and Irish Lions Test matches in Melbourne over an eight-to-10-year period.
That deal ensured the Melbourne team would be retained in the Super Rugby competition.
When concerns over the Rebels’ future were raised in December, club boss Baden Stephenson told this masthead the financial problems were solvable, and that the issues were not unique to the club, but a broader problem across Super Rugby’s five Australian teams.
He pointed to a cut in funding from Rugby Australia due to COVID-19 and the return of Western Force, which reduced the money given to each club from $5.5 million a year to $3.9 million.
He also confirmed that talks had broken down for Rugby Australia to take control of the Rebels.
“We very much were open to having a conversation around the centralisation of the commercial assets of our club. We had one brief conversation … those conversations have ceased for the moment, I don’t think it’s a major priority for Rugby Australia,” he said.
