Electric Vehicles
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@nzzp I absolutely applaud the innovation and vision of Tesla but my one experience driving one was shit. Cheap, nasty and surprisingly stolid. The only thing I liked was the navigation.
Much better EV's out there. Admittedly it was only the 3 but man did it underperform and disappoint.
I have to admit, its really grown on me. If it was MY car, I'd probably be a bit let down, but as the family car it's sodding perfect.
Warm when you get in (as in climate and as in engine is ready to go), oodles of storage space (the back seats have more leg room than our X5), the technology is superb and as we got the performance model, it really does go like shit off a shovel.
I think part of their minimialist design is because they know their feel is really quite cheap, so the less touch points there are, the less it's exposed.
It really would be a terrible rental as it takes time to learn how to drive properly.
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@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
It really would be a terrible rental as it takes time to learn how to drive properly.
This times 1000.
The guy at the Avis counter gave me the keyless fob and asked if I knew how to use it. Never told me where to use it, so there I am in the carpark feeling like the oldest stupidest human on the planet passing the fob over the door handle most of the door etc without success.
Eventually I had to go find someone who condescendingly explained that the RFID chip is in the door pillar. WTF. Why couldn't Avis have just told me.
Then apart from the blindingly obvious (indicator, brake pedal, steering wheel) and the ipad there is nothing in the cockpit. Any time I wanted to do anything it was pull over a do a search.
Fine if you've bought one, shit if you have it for 24 hours.
I assume Avis had changed all the personalisation settings to dumb it down as it drove like a truck from the 1960's, slow, ponderous with no acceleration. The opposite of what I expect from an EV.
Test driving the Audii etron and Posche Cayenne over the next wk. Expecting much more
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
I assume Avis had changed all the personalisation settings to dumb it down as it drove like a truck from the 1960's, slow, ponderous with no acceleration. The opposite of what I expect from an EV.
did you disable the handbrake?
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Reminds me of a thrilling rental car experience I had where it was a bog-standard auto but I couldn't figure out how to get it into reverse gear for the life of me. I could see where the R was but couldn't get it into place. Had to wander back to the kiosk and ask and "There's a ring under the gearstick you need to pull up to get it into reverse".
Thankfully however I faired much better than my boss who got the same car he however was running late and in a tizz of not thinking straight and desperation put the car in neutral and pushed it out of the parking spot with his bare hands...
I'm convinced to this day that people in rental car places know all this information but fail to divulge preferring instead to spy on their customers from afar observing their ever increasing levels of frustration and perplexation whilst braying like a donkey with laughter.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
you will blow up before you get there
its a nice ride, but smaller inside than i was expecting
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@Windows97 said in Electric Vehicles:
I could see where the R was but couldn't get it into place. .... "There's a ring under the gearstick you need to pull up to get it into reverse".
That sounds fucking familiar.
Not (just) as a dirty euphemism... I'm sure I've had that exact same exasperating experience in a vehicle. -
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
Fuck - if I hear a member of my family pontificate one more time "Oh... there's no way I'd buy a purely electric vehicle, because... " - the chance of me doing murder will rise several percentage points.
And it's already fucking high for most, but especially the ones that tend to do that... so be warned, fluffybunnies - go back to talking meaningless shit about the weather or what ships you saw on the horizon today. -
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Only premium electric car I've not driven. Let us know how it goes!
@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
Then apart from the blindingly obvious (indicator, brake pedal, steering wheel) and the ipad there is nothing in the cockpit. Any time I wanted to do anything it was pull over a do a search.
Fine if you've bought one, shit if you have it for 24 hours.
That stuff still winds me up occasionally. Everything is automated in it, so it can be a right pain in the ass when you don't want it automated. I.e lights / windscreen etc. Basics are fine but as soon as you want to do something a bit off the script ... frustrating.
I assume Avis had changed all the personalisation settings to dumb it down as it drove like a truck from the 1960's, slow, ponderous with no acceleration. The opposite of what I expect from an EV.
Chlll Mode / Sport Setting.
Test driving the Audii etron and Posche Cayenne over the next wk. Expecting much more
Etron doesn't drive as well as it looks. But given it's the liz hurley of cars, that means there is a lot of potential still! I'd probably go the base, not the RS though.
Do you mean Taycan? Cayenne is the SUV. Which although not electric, is an awesome piece of kit. Went on a Porsche day where they took it off road, then fanged it around the track. I was blown away by the capability on both.
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@Kruse said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
Fuck - if I hear a member of my family pontificate one more time "Oh... there's no way I'd buy a purely electric vehicle, because... " - the chance of me doing murder will rise several percentage points.
And it's already fucking high for most, but especially the ones that tend to do that... so be warned, fluffybunnies - go back to talking meaningless shit about the weather or what ships you saw on the horizon today.Her experience to date: sitting in the back of a Tesla Model S 85 that I launched into stupid mode - good fun.
And her work buying a couple of EVs and having them break down.
The number of fluffybunnies who say "EVs CATCH FIRE" without looking at the number of petrol cars that catch fire.... my days....
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@Kruse said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
Fuck - if I hear a member of my family pontificate one more time "Oh... there's no way I'd buy a purely electric vehicle, because... " - the chance of me doing murder will rise several percentage points.
And it's already fucking high for most, but especially the ones that tend to do that... so be warned, fluffybunnies - go back to talking meaningless shit about the weather or what ships you saw on the horizon today.Her experience to date: sitting in the back of a Tesla Model S 85 that I launched into stupid mode - good fun.
And her work buying a couple of EVs and having them break down.
The number of fluffybunnies who say "EVs CATCH FIRE" without looking at the number of petrol cars that catch fire.... my days....
I hear: "But what about if you needed to recharge it, and the charging stations were all full!!!???"
While I think... how many times have I ever even seen a car being charged, let alone a queue for a charging station?And more recently - even fucking dumber - "Fonterra bought all these new EV trucks, but they ripped up the gravel tanker-tracks - so then they sold them all". To which I think - "Driver error and/or poor configuration". But - "sell them all" - sure, that's also an option.
To be fair - I've done some research into electric bikes - and mostly it just seems like "too much hassle" - with people carrying around converters and shit. And "what if the charging stations are all full" when I'm on a roadtrip. But more importantly... they're all fucking ugly.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
Do you mean Taycan
oops yes the GTS
@Kruse said in Electric Vehicles:
how many times have I ever even seen a car being charged, let alone a queue for a charging station?
Happened to me in Thames. One charging station in town, someone was on it so went for a wander and put my name down in the queue - which actually means nothing. Got a notification that the station was free but in the five minutes it took to walk back someone else nicked it. Happened twice. After the second time I sat in the car while three teenage kids played games on their Teslas ipad and didn't move on even when they had gone way beyond 80%. Until I banged on their roof and told them to fucking move.
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@dogmeat Yeah - I scoff at the concern - but actually do have the concern myself.
I also offset it with the thought that I really should have more breaks when riding - and it would be a good excuse for an enforced break. But - then imagine one of the few times when I'm actually trying to get somewhere, perhaps before it gets dark... and that would be a fluffybunny.
Then fall back to "haven't seen a good-looking electric bike - so... irrelevant" -
@Kruse said in Electric Vehicles:
"haven't seen a good-looking electric bike - so... irrelevant"
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So what does "good-looking" look like?
These guys seem to have a lot of options: https://australianelectricmotorco.com/
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@Kruse said in Electric Vehicles:
"haven't seen a good-looking electric bike - so... irrelevant"
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So what does "good-looking" look like?
These guys seem to have a lot of options: https://australianelectricmotorco.com/
Yeah - "good-looking" is very subjective. Especially with bikes. Met up (accidentally) with a friend at Whangamomona pub last year - and she referred to the fact that everybody seems to think their bike is the hottest thing going, and everybody else's is a pig.
As I was looking at her boring-as-fuck generic japanese bike, and her boyfriends donkey adventure bike, thinking "damn, why would they ever buy those, when something like my sweet sexy Speed Triple is an option?"
I might need to have another look at the options - a couple of those Energica bikes look to be in my narrow range of "not too futuristic-ridiculous looking but not too boring-as-fuck" sweet-spot. -
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@Kruse you sound like my kids at the dinner table when they were 8
Do not! I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?
If I do finally relocate to Canada - I'll seriously consider one of those Energicas as my "North-American bike".
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@nostrildamus said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Aussie Ferners: anyone looked into novated leasing for EVs? I hear it recently got more attractive.
Mrs TA keeps saying "we don't do enough km" but I don't think that's a factor any more?
try the calculator here https://www.leaseplan.com.au/tools-and-resources/calculator (and for testing, try button on right "I know the car I want" and see data down below on left) but yeah km doesn't seem much of a factor anymore unless you are doing considerable mileage. NB it only shows a few EV models.
Looking at a 5-year lease on a Volvo XC40 dual motor electric - comes out to $1783 / month or $412/week I guess.
Looks like they scrapped all the tax implications around min/max km on novated leases.
Another one of Mrs TA's arguments falls by the wayside
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