Electric Vehicles
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Aussie Ferners: anyone looked into novated leasing for EVs? I hear it recently got more attractive.
Mrs TA keeps saying "we don't do enough km" but I don't think that's a factor any more?
try the calculator here https://www.leaseplan.com.au/tools-and-resources/calculator (and for testing, try button on right "I know the car I want" and see data down below on left) but yeah km doesn't seem much of a factor anymore unless you are doing considerable mileage. NB it only shows a few EV models.
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Quick question for those who have an electric vehicle
Is the cost of charging at a motorway service station more, less, the same as charging at other locations?
In the UK, it's on average 50p per litre more expensive for petrol at a motorway service station
Just curious
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@MiketheSnow said in Electric Vehicles:
Quick question for those who have an electric vehicle
Is the cost of charging at a motorway service station more, less, the same as charging at other locations?
In the UK, it's on average 50p per litre more expensive for petrol at a motorway service station
Just curious
What's a motorway?
Cost is by provider, AFAIK it doesn't vary
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@MiketheSnow Tesla superchargers are around 35-45p per kWh. Competition dictates that the motorway ones will need to be the same level.
I charge at home at 9p per kWh (night time rate), so not in a hurry to pay 4-5x that. We looked at taking the Tesla to Edinburgh but decided not to as don’t want to deal with range anxiety. Supercharge can get us 250-300 miles in about 25 mins which is great but problems begin when others do it too and you have to queue for it
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I see that a few companies (especially the Spanish moped company) are bringing out small EVs with swappable batteries. If the technology is to take off in big cities like Tokyo that’s the future. Sadly the Japanese companies are still slow though - I look at the cars available here in NZ and some are much better equipped than the Japanese equivalents. It’s a shame the government protects the industry so much in Japan.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Cool.
I'm one of the people who has zero interest in this truck as it's just so god damn awful to look at. I can't comprehend the thinking behind it.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
As long as they take the tech into other vehicles.
as long as it makes sense financially, they absolutely will.
Interesting idea though - shows how hard it is to get people to rethink 'this is the way we've always done it' and leave the legacy design concepts behind. Feels like there's a lot of tech development left in the electric car industry - the 'motors in the wheels' was a neat idea and opens up some crazy shapes for transportation.
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@nzzp I absolutely applaud the innovation and vision of Tesla but my one experience driving one was shit. Cheap, nasty and surprisingly stolid. The only thing I liked was the navigation.
Much better EV's out there. Admittedly it was only the 3 but man did it underperform and disappoint.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Cool.
Excellent innovation that can only come from disruptors not wedded to decades of "this is how we do it". I shudder at doing the wiring in my Subie pending the addition of 50% more cylinders in the new year. Something I'm certain I'll have to fork out for someone else more competent (and willing) to do.
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Pickup Tesla groupie line: I used to have a huge wiring harness, now I hang everything off the one giant cable.
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A low roadhugging Porsche Ev with all that low centre of gravity sounds interesting, a hybrid sounds like too much engine complexity to me:
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@nzzp I absolutely applaud the innovation and vision of Tesla but my one experience driving one was shit. Cheap, nasty and surprisingly stolid. The only thing I liked was the navigation.
Much better EV's out there. Admittedly it was only the 3 but man did it underperform and disappoint.
I have to admit, its really grown on me. If it was MY car, I'd probably be a bit let down, but as the family car it's sodding perfect.
Warm when you get in (as in climate and as in engine is ready to go), oodles of storage space (the back seats have more leg room than our X5), the technology is superb and as we got the performance model, it really does go like shit off a shovel.
I think part of their minimialist design is because they know their feel is really quite cheap, so the less touch points there are, the less it's exposed.
It really would be a terrible rental as it takes time to learn how to drive properly.
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@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
It really would be a terrible rental as it takes time to learn how to drive properly.
This times 1000.
The guy at the Avis counter gave me the keyless fob and asked if I knew how to use it. Never told me where to use it, so there I am in the carpark feeling like the oldest stupidest human on the planet passing the fob over the door handle most of the door etc without success.
Eventually I had to go find someone who condescendingly explained that the RFID chip is in the door pillar. WTF. Why couldn't Avis have just told me.
Then apart from the blindingly obvious (indicator, brake pedal, steering wheel) and the ipad there is nothing in the cockpit. Any time I wanted to do anything it was pull over a do a search.
Fine if you've bought one, shit if you have it for 24 hours.
I assume Avis had changed all the personalisation settings to dumb it down as it drove like a truck from the 1960's, slow, ponderous with no acceleration. The opposite of what I expect from an EV.
Test driving the Audii etron and Posche Cayenne over the next wk. Expecting much more
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
I assume Avis had changed all the personalisation settings to dumb it down as it drove like a truck from the 1960's, slow, ponderous with no acceleration. The opposite of what I expect from an EV.
did you disable the handbrake?
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Reminds me of a thrilling rental car experience I had where it was a bog-standard auto but I couldn't figure out how to get it into reverse gear for the life of me. I could see where the R was but couldn't get it into place. Had to wander back to the kiosk and ask and "There's a ring under the gearstick you need to pull up to get it into reverse".
Thankfully however I faired much better than my boss who got the same car he however was running late and in a tizz of not thinking straight and desperation put the car in neutral and pushed it out of the parking spot with his bare hands...
I'm convinced to this day that people in rental car places know all this information but fail to divulge preferring instead to spy on their customers from afar observing their ever increasing levels of frustration and perplexation whilst braying like a donkey with laughter.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage we're going up to Cairns in January and I warned to hire a Polestar 2 for the minimal driving we need to do, just for jollies.
Mrs TA got nervous because she's years bad things about an EV somewhere
you will blow up before you get there
its a nice ride, but smaller inside than i was expecting
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@Windows97 said in Electric Vehicles:
I could see where the R was but couldn't get it into place. .... "There's a ring under the gearstick you need to pull up to get it into reverse".
That sounds fucking familiar.
Not (just) as a dirty euphemism... I'm sure I've had that exact same exasperating experience in a vehicle.
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