CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand
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@Chris this is what's impressed me about the current Indian setup. They seem to have a production line of talent. Such a far cry from the old amateur efforts
By comparison, and from the outside, Australia's seems to have fallen back a bit. Sheffield shield not what it was? Pitches look more similar than they used to.
You're the expert, keen on your opinion
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@nzzp said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Chris this is what's impressed me about the current Indian setup. They seem to have a production line of talent. Such a far cry from the old amateur efforts
By comparison, and from the outside, Australia's seems to have fallen back a bit. Sheffield shield not what it was? Pitches look more similar than they used to.
You're the expert, keen on your opinion
Well as I said they are obsessed and spend a fucken fortune so they should be good.
I suppose being a big hostile fiery pace bowler doesn’t come naturally to a lot of diminutive Indians to be fair.
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@nzzp said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Chris this is what's impressed me about the current Indian setup. They seem to have a production line of talent. Such a far cry from the old amateur efforts
By comparison, and from the outside, Australia's seems to have fallen back a bit. Sheffield shield not what it was? Pitches look more similar than they used to.
You're the expert, keen on your opinion.
Yes the Sheffield Shield is weaker the Australian players don’t play in it anymore.
So that weakens it somewhat.There is a real fix here in identifying 13/14 years olds and sticking with them through the youth system,which means some potential players slip through the system and get picked up by AFL.
We had a young quick 5 years back who had massive potential was bowling quick for his age but could not break in to the Qld under age teams,he got frustrated after good performances and AFL grabbed him up on a $80,000 contract he now plays AFL for The Brisbane Lions,
I was one of the Qld u/19 coaches and still could not get him in to the system.
But in saying that the volume of cricketers playing in Australia they will always have a gun 30 odd to pick from. -
The scary thing about the Indian system it is corrupt,
Money gets you everywhere and selected in the first class and under age teams.
if it was based on just ability the Indian teams would be unstoppable,I have spent time coaching in a couple of Craig McDermotts academies in India over the last 6 years.
I have seen some very interesting selection practices. -
If the reports of India requesting a slow pitch with all the grass shaved off is correct that will make our bowlers work very hard,The Indian batsmen are going to be able get forward or play from the back crease trusting the bounce and be able to wait for the ball.
Miss line or length and it's over or into the boundary.From a bowling point of view bowling 2nd would be best for NZ hoping to get some movement with the dew if it falls.And a slightly quicker pitch which will help with variations in length and pace.
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@Chris lol it's hard to fully respect a sport that blatantly tries to give one team an upper hand. The Indians will be almost impossible to beat on a pitch that they've requested so to speak. I can see us batting really well but then getting completely annihilated when we bowl. Hopefully we bat first.
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@Canes4life said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Chris lol it's hard to fully respect a sport that blatantly tries to give one team an upper hand. The Indians will be almost impossible to beat on a pitch that they've requested so to speak. I can see us batting really well but then getting completely annihilated when we bowl. Hopefully we bat first.
Yeah there’s so much good and bad about Indian cricket.
I do love the incredible passion that the true fans show and massive respect for opposition players.
Then again I can’t stand the blatant one eyed ness of the other kinds of fans ( the Tendulkar is better than Bradman brigade )
The pitch favouritism gives me the shits too, that and our bowling attack gives me major cause for concern.
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@Canes4life said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Chris lol it's hard to fully respect a sport that blatantly tries to give one team an upper hand. The Indians will be almost impossible to beat on a pitch that they've requested so to speak. I can see us batting really well but then getting completely annihilated when we bowl. Hopefully we bat first.
Yep I have the same feeling,if we win the toss I hope we don't make the same mistake we did against SA and bowl first.
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@Bovidae said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
Looking at the stats from previous games in Mumbai, you need to win the toss and bat first. Williamson needs to call correctly.
and then choose correctly, as well ...
not a given.
they seem to like to chase.
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@Rapido said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
Looking at the stats from previous games in Mumbai, you need to win the toss and bat first. Williamson needs to call correctly.
and then choose correctly, as well ...
not a given.
they seem to like to chase.
Yeah, what they should do and what they want to do doesn’t always seem to match up…
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@Rapido said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
Looking at the stats from previous games in Mumbai, you need to win the toss and bat first. Williamson needs to call correctly.
and then choose correctly, as well ...
not a given.
they seem to like to chase.
Williamson and Stead might want to read this.
The lucky winner of the toss at the Wankhede Stadium seems set to bat first – South Africa made 399-7 and 382-5 doing so against England and Bangladesh respectively, while India tallied 357-8 verus Sri Lanka. Batting second, England were rolled for 170 versus the Proteas while Sri Lanka collapsed to 55 all out against the hosts. When Afghanistan made 291-5 versus Australia, our trans- Ta$man neighbours were 91-7 before Glenn Maxwell happened.
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@Bovidae said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Rapido said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Bovidae said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
Looking at the stats from previous games in Mumbai, you need to win the toss and bat first. Williamson needs to call correctly.
and then choose correctly, as well ...
not a given.
they seem to like to chase.
Williamson and Stead might want to read this.
The lucky winner of the toss at the Wankhede Stadium seems set to bat first – South Africa made 399-7 and 382-5 doing so against England and Bangladesh respectively, while India tallied 357-8 verus Sri Lanka. Batting second, England were rolled for 170 versus the Proteas while Sri Lanka collapsed to 55 all out against the hosts. When Afghanistan made 291-5 versus Australia, our trans- Ta$man neighbours were 91-7 before Glenn Maxwell happened.
Why do I suspect even if we win the toss and they did read this, they would only read "our trans- Ta$man neighbours were 91-7 before Glenn Maxwell happened." So there is a chance..
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Indian cricket this sounds familiar it is worth reading the whole article
First there were suggestions India asked for a slow pitch to be prepared. Now, it’s been reported Indian officials have switched the pitch for their crunch World Cup semifinal against New Zealand in Mumbai without the ICC’s permission.
The accusations come ahead of the crunch match, which starts on Wednesday night (NZT) with the winner advancing to Sunday’s final against either Australia or South Africa.
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@nzzp said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
@Chris India's good enough they don't need to do this. FFS.
They are you are right,there will a lot of black market money floating around India on this game,
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@Chris said in CWC Semi-final 1: India v New Zealand:
Indian cricket this sounds familiar it is worth reading the whole article
First there were suggestions India asked for a slow pitch to be prepared. Now, it’s been reported Indian officials have switched the pitch for their crunch World Cup semifinal against New Zealand in Mumbai without the ICC’s permission.
The accusations come ahead of the crunch match, which starts on Wednesday night (NZT) with the winner advancing to Sunday’s final against either Australia or South Africa.
The UK publication also reported there were concerns the surface set to be used for the final, to be played in Ahmedabad, could be changed unilaterally.
Pretty happy if NZ gets to choose our preferred pitch when we play South Africa in the final.
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