Wayne Barnes gooone!
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@Catogrande said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
@sparky said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
What a piston wristed gibbon! Fucked the ABs over in 2007 big time.
Yes. There was the forward pass which he missed despite his AR being right there and of course him refusing your boys the option of a DG. All down to him.
The forward pass wasn't the complaint by most people (including Graham Henry). It was the AR (Kaplan IIRC) that missed / ignored it, as you say.
It was Barnes swallowing his whistle that was the problem. Multiple clear and obvious offences that weren't given. Unduly influenced by a rabid French crowd probably. They conceded only 2 penalties FFS! He simply wasn't ready to have been appointed that match, so I have always blamed Paddy O'Brien as much as Barnes.
Keep mentioning the forward pass as the only event if you like, because he did miss that too.
The ABs also have their highest percentage of losses under him than any other ref, so personally I won't miss him. He certainly wasn't the worst around. Would have preferred Nige any time though.
As for death threats - he has never been on my list...(joking, that is complete bullshit). I knew a Bryce Lawrence (not the ref) and he had death threat calls in the middle of the night from Sth Africa. He was an eighty year old man. Pillocks.
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@MN5 said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
@sparky said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
What a piston wristed gibbon! Fucked the ABs over in 2007 big time.
I've always maintained if that had happened to a British team or SA he'd have been hounded out of the game. No way in hell the Saffas would have accepted him to ref them ever again. And tbh I don't blame them.
As to the online abuse, the internet and social media have always been a sewer in that regard. Not sure why people are continually shocked after a quarter century.
I cant stop reading this with a lisp, exactly as Mike Tyson would
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He’s certainly not the best, but by christ he’s streets ahead of others during his career
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@Dodge said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
those calling for a winding back of the TMO, you must be aware that the consequence will be more abuse of the man in the middle as inevitably more mistakes are made.
Those people saying "just let the boys play!" will be the same ones livid about a replay showing a tiny infringement that disadvantages their team.
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Hats off to a top rugby man. Thought he showed real guts to weather the fallout from 07 QF as a young ref and then use it to dramatically improve the weaknesses in his reffing. Much like the other GOATs who went through that also had find a way through the postQF gauntlet.
Fair fucks to him. he went away let the pain drive him forward and waited 14 years to deliver his revenge in the coldest way possible: giving every marginal call possible against the ABs.
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@Smuts I wish Jordie Barrett had nailed the 74th minute penalty, if only to see the reaction/meltdown of the Bok supporter base. Would have been epic, especially if the stories are true of what he endured after Marseille 2022
Would have made Pieter van Zyl look like a reasonable person I think 
Barnes must have obviously felt that the fallout of denying the Boks was worse than doing the ABs over again
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@Smuts said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
Fair fucks to him. he went away let the pain drive him forward and waited 14 years to deliver his revenge in the coldest way possible: giving every marginal call possible against the ABs.
He was even smarter than that - he managed to get most of the vitriol for destroying a rugby match, again, deflected onto the TMO.
I note that many of his defenders are English. It is easier for them to rate him....they never played in his "matches".
Sadly, as I, and several others have said, he was far from the worst and all of the refs are hamstrung by an unworkable set of rules and protocols laid out by an incompetent bunch of morons. (Yes, I am bitter that I would now rather mow lawns on a Saturday than watch rugby - union).
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@sparky said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
He was the start of a generation of refs who wanted be the centre of attention. Good riddance!
Steve Walsh says hi. Oh wait a moment, he says get fucked that was me.
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@Catogrande said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
@sparky said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
He was the start of a generation of refs who wanted be the centre of attention. Good riddance!
Steve Walsh says hi. Oh wait a moment, he says get fucked that was me.
yes but he also had better hair.
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@canefan said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
@NTA said in Wayne Barnes gooone!:
Scary shit. Gotta question whether he's made the right decision, but no harm done I guess...
My bro in law had the same thing. Pretty nerve wracking, but the procedure he had generally sorts the problem out
Weird anecdote related to circulatory things: a looooong time ago, my son was in the special care neonatal ward with another kid born about 6 weeks prem.
At one point this kid's heart started racing crazy fast, and they got the Doc on the phone, who told the nurse: "put your thumbs over his eyeballs and press down gently".
Almost instantly settled it back down to normal.
